It’s a fundamentally wrong understanding that capitalism follows ideals or a viewpoint-independent logic.
I have just explained the viewpoint-independent logic behind capitalism.
You are stating problems with our current system, that is different from the underlying ideals and viewpoint-independent logic that people use to justify and advocate for capitalism.
You are no different than a capitalist pointing at Soviet Union bread lines and being flabbergasted that anyone could possibly support any form of socialism.
Oh no, another one of these “there are only anarcho-capitalism and socialism and nothing in between” types.
There is no viewpoint-independent logic behind capitalism because capitalism wasn’t designed. It’s a natural function of trade. As soon as you have the concepts of property and trade, you have capitalism. The ancient babylonians had capitalism, and so did the ancient egyptians.
What we call capitalist theory now is nothing but descriptivism coupled with a bit of putting up anti-caputalist guardrails to make sure capitalism doesn’t completely run amok. And since the 70s, these guardrails have been left to rot or actively dismantled.
Again, if you do nothing, capitalism will emerge. If you continue to do nothing, monopolists will emerge. If you continue to do nothing, these monopolists will take over the government, and you get feudalism.
Oh no, another one of these “there are only anarcho-capitalism and socialism and nothing in between” types.
Not at all what I said, I explicitly, and repeatedly, referenced the real world systems being more complex and nuanced than the model systems that show the basic pros and cons of the system type.
There is no viewpoint-independent logic behind capitalism because capitalism wasn’t designed. It’s a natural function of trade. As soon as you have the concepts of property and trade, you have capitalism. The ancient babylonians had capitalism, and so did the ancient egyptians.
So in your mind only things that are intentionally designed by humans can have viewpoint-independent logic?
There are no naturally arising systems in nature that have viewpoint-independent logic?
And you think that modern trade and capitalism is completely and 100% just natural and would always occur no matter what and has no basis in the work of capitalist theorists like Adam Smith and Karl Marx?
Again, if you do nothing, capitalism will emerge. If you continue to do nothing, monopolists will emerge. If you continue to do nothing, these monopolists will take over the government, and you get feudalism.
So you’re arguing that stable trade networks and relationships have never existed and are impossible to exist or maintain?
I have just explained the viewpoint-independent logic behind capitalism.
You are stating problems with our current system, that is different from the underlying ideals and viewpoint-independent logic that people use to justify and advocate for capitalism.
You are no different than a capitalist pointing at Soviet Union bread lines and being flabbergasted that anyone could possibly support any form of socialism.
Oh no, another one of these “there are only anarcho-capitalism and socialism and nothing in between” types.
There is no viewpoint-independent logic behind capitalism because capitalism wasn’t designed. It’s a natural function of trade. As soon as you have the concepts of property and trade, you have capitalism. The ancient babylonians had capitalism, and so did the ancient egyptians.
What we call capitalist theory now is nothing but descriptivism coupled with a bit of putting up anti-caputalist guardrails to make sure capitalism doesn’t completely run amok. And since the 70s, these guardrails have been left to rot or actively dismantled.
Again, if you do nothing, capitalism will emerge. If you continue to do nothing, monopolists will emerge. If you continue to do nothing, these monopolists will take over the government, and you get feudalism.
That’s just the natural, mathematical precession.
Not at all what I said, I explicitly, and repeatedly, referenced the real world systems being more complex and nuanced than the model systems that show the basic pros and cons of the system type.
So in your mind only things that are intentionally designed by humans can have viewpoint-independent logic?
There are no naturally arising systems in nature that have viewpoint-independent logic?
And you think that modern trade and capitalism is completely and 100% just natural and would always occur no matter what and has no basis in the work of capitalist theorists like Adam Smith and Karl Marx?
So you’re arguing that stable trade networks and relationships have never existed and are impossible to exist or maintain?