When you get a refund it doesn’t include shipping. So yep.
Under EU consumer law, it’s a requirement for the seller to refund you the shipping cost as well, unless you paid for extras like faster delivery. I understand that’s not a thing in the States, though.
What? I had no idea? So that should be automatic, but I don’t recall this being offered last time I considered a refund for something I paid shipping on. How would one refer to that to have the company accept those terms?
Edit: wait, you mean just the shipping of how the product got to you? Or also the shipping to send back the product for a refund?
That honestly sucks. Like it’s fine for inter EU shipping but seems like it will result in a lot of products straight up being unavailable in Europe eventually.
Exactly this. I’m dumb, but I ain’t stupid.
eBay:
Item $5
Shipping $25
This is fine by me as it makes comparing prices cheaper when I’m trying to avoid Amazon. I remember once recently I tried to avoid Amazon and found some website where it was a couple of quid cheaper so I went with it. First I had to create an account, then I had to let them save my payment details, then they added tax to the item, then they added delivery, then they added tax on the delivery, then I remember some other arbitrary admin fee or something, and at the end it was nearly twice the price. So I told them to delete my account and I went with Amazon.
I frequently have the impression that kind of behavior is just a front for harvesting data.
Living in The Netherlands means I can check out with iDeal (will become Wero) and often even without an account.
With Amazon I have to check I am on the right store to get actually normal priced shipping (3-5 euro instead of 20-30 euro). If they have something on Amazon.com I can only pay with a creditcard instead of all the normal options other versions of Amazon offer. The only thing Amazon does correct and most other North American stores don’t is add the tax to the price which they are supposed to do.
Depends on how many I’m buying and if shipping is cheaper for multiple items.
25+25+5 is cheaper than 30+30+0.
one of our customers at work has two online shops: one with everything free shipping but higher prices and one with lower prices and shipping extra. both go well. i can’t say their names tho, because he’s afraid people would be angry if they find out it’s basically the same offers in both shops 😄
Guess it better to get the expensive one if not sure whether you will return as then you’ll get shipping refunded as it was factored into the price.
On sites where people tend to sort by low price, keep shipping separate.
On sites where people buy based on emotion, give free shipping to improve conversion rates and close the deal.
people buy based on emotion
Not me. I ask the AI to do all my shopping, because it is perfectly logical and always performs the optimal action.
Oh, hey, incidentally I now have an order of 265 dozen eggs on my front porch.
How in Lemmy hell you managed to make an “AI = Bad” post in this thread is beyond me.
Spoken like a man who doesn’t eat enough eggs
Or don’t hack peoples brains and just say hey here is product, you want it? Click here.
Or free shipping at xx Euros, which results in me paying/buying a lot more unnecessary stuff…
This is me with car parts. Spend 2 more euros to save 3 in shipping? Welp, I guess I’m getting drained plug washers for my next 4 oil changes…
Get a fumoto valve. Never buy drain plug washer again.
Meh, washers rarely need replacing anyway.
Grew up in a shop, did tons of oil changes, driven half a dozen cars over a million miles, replaced one or two drain plugs, but never just a washer.
I mean I either get them both in a kit or just a washer, but after multiple peaks, I’ve learned it’s best to at least replace the washer because probably none of the last 10 owners did.
Current car’s plug is a 21 or 24 millimeter thread, pretty hard to screw up the plug lol
Yeah but then I’m buying Fumoto valves every 2-3 years lol
? They last the life of the engine ?
Which engine? Since I haven’t yet gotten any of my dream cars that I wanna keep forever, I switch every 2-3 years at most.
Amazon comes to mind
Also, 20$ meal, 5$ tip VS 25$ meal, 0$ tip
If only we could know that it’s $5 tip before ordering.
Literally a good tip if you sell on ebay.
Yea, people don’t wanna see the + shipping. Higher price with free shipping sells more.
If you’re selling an instrument on reverb, absolutely do this. People balk at shipping price concerns. Say you cover it, raise your ask.
I buy on reverb quite a bit and with expensive music grear I’m suspicious of free shipping. I’d much rather pay for shipping to ensure they actually package and ship it with care.
With free shipping, if it’s packed like shit I can’t really complain, if I spend $30, on shipping and it’s packed like shit, I’m gonna question it
Yeah, as a buyer I’d agree.
But your average buyer is dumb.
$2500 vintage guitar would not sell
$2600 vintage guitar shipping included sold within a week.
It’s a more fair way to compare prices including comparing to buying it in a physical store.
When you buy something online, they can ship it directly from the warehouse, so they save on shelf space and the shipping to the store.
Ordering on aliexpress:
$5 item, free shipping but it crosses the ocean on the back of the next available sea turtle, and if you have any issues they’ll send you a replacement component and a loose guide on how to desolder the old component and solder the new component.
But it was worth a try
Ali is very good for stuff that you can’t really mess up and still get good reviews from unknowing people. Like stickers, cases and such.
What are you? Some kind of communist?!
Product $5 shipping $20…
I’m not buying.
Some places don’t charge tax on the shipping so you’re paying less if you don’t choose free shipping.
That’s assuming meme math.
Practically speaking, I can buy from Amazon for the same or less than a storefront. So if you’re charging me $30 at Target and $25+$5 at Amazon, its still no loss to order off my phone rather than fight the crowd at a Big Box.
That’s before the time savings of never having to leave my house to shop. For some reason, Lemmyites understand working from home as a cost savings but stumble on shopping from home.
wait what does free shipping have to do with going to the store. why are they shipping it if you’re going to the store
wait what does free shipping have to do with going to the store.
If something is shipped to you then you don’t need to spend time traveling and shopping in a big building
I’m talking about sales taxes on shipping charges.
I’m talking about the final out of pocket cost of either retail purchase.
In most places the tax is included in the price and often mandatory because nearly every country in the world can figure out a way to do exactly that.
Some States have exemptions on shipping charges. So you pay less sales tax if you pay $25/$5 over $30/free.
States and localities have different ways of handling sales taxes.
Not everything is about the US though
Plus, if they sell to people in the EU they need to charge VAT anyway on the shipping. Some exception apply, but you as a person will not run into them.
