Conservatives are defined by the need to burn it all down. The point is that they see a horrible past as glorious, torture as duty, and war as peace.
It doesn’t matter who dies or whatnot, everything is just a tool towards this goal, not the actual motivation behind it.
I think they’re mad. Charlie Kirk was their man, and he was so young, who knows what he could have been. Like, Trump is what, pushing 80? Plus he’s a felon, everyone knows he’s in the Epstein files… he is on his way out, in more ways than one. Kirk is a little cleaner. So all their hopes and dreams of keeping the coloured man down, keeping the “alphabet mafia” as Kirk called the LGBTQ+ community, down, were pinned on this guy, or at least a lot of those hopes, so yeah, they’re pretty pissed.
Thing is, they weren’t gonna let up on people of colour or people of different sexual identities/orientations anyway. And all signs show they were ramping up the violence against minorities. So yeah, they’re mad, but when they say things like “now it’s war” it’s hard to know what they mean since they were waging war before.
It’s like an abusive situation and a lot of these people are probably domestic abusers and come from that mindset. Like they were already going to do damage, but now that you’ve struck back? Oh, now you’re really in trouble. But you were never not in trouble because the problem isn’t you, it’s them. They were always gonna be that way. We have to figure out how to get our country out from under this bullshit.
To be fair, there’s a massive chance Trump sacrificed Kirk in order for him to keep bowing to his masters elsewhere. That’s what Neigsendoig (my producer) and I learned watching a numerological breakdown on the whole Kirk thing.
Also, his widdow was in the Bravo show, Summer House, which tells us big time who used Kirk during his final years.
Charles Kirk was a fascist. Call him that.
Unfortunately, he was classified as one. While he engaged in Socratic debate, he was a Jesuit Zionist through and through. As a partial German-American Khazar myself, I would know that big time.
Edit: To clarify this, as I’ve since learned the nuance that comes with it. As long as you don’t incite abstract/direct violence, and you say whatever the flip you’d like, that I defend. It’s only if you incite a crime with your speech that I can’t defend it.
Why is it unfortunate that a fascist was classified as a fascist?
The unfortunate part was he had potential to be a decent human being. He did call for the murder of certain people groups (it’s rhetorical) just because they were of the line of Israel, and not us Khazars (I agree with the fact that us Khazars don’t deserve the holy land).
you should never defending someone calling for murder and genocide, your just as bad as the nazis themselves.
I don’t think you see the difference between defending one’s right to speak, and defending their actions. I never defended his actions, but his right to speak… that I would’ve defended regardless. After all, the conservatives lost power in the 1970’s, which is why I don’t care about politics anymore (Neigsendoig and I used to be heavy Jesuit sympathizing fascists).
Edit: To clarify this, as I’ve since learned the nuance that comes with it. As long as you don’t incite abstract/direct violence, and you say whatever the flip you’d like, that I defend. It’s only if you incite a crime with your speech that I can’t defend it.
The way you talk reminds of that guy that kept posting about manifesting wings.
Khazar is an interesting new identity to me.
Cursory google search says it was a trade empire that lasted 200 years and converted to Judaism.
Off topic to the rest of the post, but I’m now deeply curious what a modern day Khazar is and what it means to you. Please enlighten me!
That’s because what most people think a Jew is, we don’t have that. Khazars have rebranded themselves to the Jews to get some people on our side. We’re the Jesuit tricksters and magicians.
I like your vague language. It really conveys the sense of mystery and intrigue you’re going for.
So Khazars are a real active modern faction? Is it like Kabal practicing Gentile Converts?
The kingdom of Khazaria was destroyed in the 800’s I think. The Khazars were forced to choose one of three Abrahamic religions, and the ruler of the Khazarian Empire decided upon Judaism, because they could use that as a disguise for their evil deeds. This is part of the reason why we still hold onto that today as Khazars (I don’t care about that garbage, though). The Khazars came from Eastern Ukraine of the modern day, which is where they might be headed back once this Ukraine thing is all said and done.
They don’t actually give a shit about Charlie Kirk. They just want a catalyst for their enabling acts.
he was and still useful TOOL even when dead, to rile up the base, it is having a lesser effect because it was someone further right than he is, they were all ready to go with “leftist radical” narrative.
Crocodile tears from crocodiles.
Edit:Alex Jones is already basically comitting taking Kirk’s “job” of going to colleges probably because he’d like a slice of those millions Kirk was paid.
These maga freaks would wear their friend’s skin like a suit if it made them an extra dirty dollar.
Democrat here. Didn’t want to burn it all down. Hoped there would be adults in the room to reel trump in like last time. Nope. He’s wrecking everything and I’m not sure it’s possible to put it all back together again even if it’s possible to put dems in charge.
I’m not sure it’s possible to put it all back together again even if it’s possible to put dems in charge.
We crossed this threshold on day 3.
They’re really unhappy and angry, and I understand why. Kirks views on abortion and LGBT+ in particular make me want to scream, but I’m totally against someone being gunned down like that for their political views. It’s scary for people that vote Conservative.
I’ll worry about 50,000 other things today before the question of how conservatives are feeling crosses my mind. It’s not important.
Maybe? Conservatives are mostly about feelings. The “fuck your feelings” thing was a confession and projection, as most conservative accusations are.
The conservative need to burn everything down got Trump elected.
The problems with Charlie Kirk’s assassination is the following.
First, random gun violence hit a conservative news commentator. Worse, it was someone who grew up in a conservative family. So, you’ve got a lot of conflicting emotions playing out in real time.
Second, there has been a lot of push back regarding what kind of commentator Charlie Kirk was. The discussions of who Kirk was outside of the conservative bubble are leaking in and a lot of Kirk’s fans hate it.
and he was killed by someone FURTHER right than kirk was, groypers or nick fuentes supporters.
everyone else
Less than half of everyone tho
Less than half of everyone who voted successfully.
Yeah, yeah. Keep calling voting for Trump success
That’s not what they said.
Voted successfully: The ballot was filled out properly and the vote was actually counted.
He didn’t just die. He was murdered. Just saying
Oh do you mean like all the children that are dying in Gaza? No particular reason or anything, just dying. Sometimes (rarely) “killed”, by whom you ask? Just killed, no need to discuss the matter any further.
What? You seem unhinged.
It is a reference to how western newspapers say there are “deaths” in Gaza without explaining who caused those deaths. In the same way CK was murdered, those people have also been murdered, but western media won’t phrase it that way.
Trump & co are working towards stripping away the power of the people who already don’t have much power. I don’t think these two events are comparable.
Charlie Kirk might even have been killed by a far right Goyper. I’m not sure what conservatives can burn down apart from themselves.
" I’m not sure what conservatives can burn down apart from themselves."
Fucking everything. They want to burn it all down. Even if it doesn’t affect them, they want to fuck it up.
The less you have, the more they have. They don’t need more things to get comparitively richer, they just need to take things away from you. You wouldn’t do that, because you’re not mentally damaged, but they sure do at every opportunity.
I’m afraid that’s what they’re going to do, because they’re never rational. They will use this opportunity to accelerate their damaging politics.
Some a-hole Neigsendoig (my producer) called out said Kirk faked his death based upon something on his neck. That was alleged to traumatize the masses, divide them, and control them. He called it Jesuit gobbledygook witchcraft.
That’s an insane take. No way he can hide that amount of prop blood without it being too obvious. He probably lost liters before he even hit the ground.
That’s what we thought too. That guy was a Jesuit FUDmonger anyway, so it made sense that we didn’t really believe that either.
no, because charlie kirk is being used as political capital for the base to shore up support, hes nothing more than a prop to conservatives.
also because its the MSMs keeps sustaining the narrative, i bet yuo if they stopped reporting kirk, conservatives would immediately forget him like they did with RUSH.’
also conservatives arnt very keen of upsetting the status quo, aka challenging the govt, as they claim, they dont change very well. they love to bitch about it, but they arnt community organizers and dont protests. plus as you have seen there are subdivision if within the republican party, magats to the right, groypers, the kirks, peterson, shapiros.
It’s all going to be a bit presumptuous unless someone who genuinely identifies as a conservative and it’s steeped specifically in the subcultures and particular varieties of conservatism Kirk was in to chimes in, but I’m not sure that they have that feeling in the way you’re describing in response to this incident because I guess you kind of can’t really feel that way more so when you’re already at that point that you feel like things are unsalvageable. Reaching that point, or being at that point already seems to be sort of the essence of the MAGA movement and why it was so successful even as people pointed out hypocrisies amongst it’s proponents or how the tenets of conservatism seemed so changeable so long as it’s Trump changing them at any given moment. Their movement basically encapsulated this with phrases like “drain the swamp”. They already long since considered the establishment order a quagmire.
Despite the irony that their saviour is still running for office within that system and contesting in elections within the supposedly beyond-fixing electoral system, they feel, I think, that Trump and his malleable brand of conservatism represents the final “burn everything down” revolution that will eventually result in the phoenix of the “great” America rising from the ashes. In this way it’s fine for Trump to forgo or undermine elections in future, to destroy institutions, even act in apparent defiance of supposedly core conservative ideals at times, because it’s part of the master plan to get rid of all the undesirables and defang opposition to the great new order that will eventually emerge.
To my mind within that framework, the maximal point fatigue and the end of patience and tolerance for the status quo was long since reached and support for Trump isn’t like traditional support for a candidate in the past, it’s more like outsourcing the revolution they’d otherwise take part in themselves, minimising the risk to themselves in the process. Events like the Kirk shooting do seen dangerous though in as much as many of those supporters likely think of themselves as revolutionaries in waiting until either the official word is given or some transcendent event lights the fuse in some way that becomes clear once it happens. This shooting might be viewed in that light. So rather than reacting to it like “that’s it! I’m now fed up with this system, time to burn it down” it could be more like “that’s the signal, I’ve already packed my go-bag and the gun under my pillow was already loaded anyway”.
