• DERRALEXANO@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    Same for searching: “did Elon Musk make a nazi salute?” Only got a response when I replaced “nazi salute” with “offensive gesture”. Ok google

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      fuck me. i don’t know why people still use google search; it was shit even before all this. jumped ship years ago.

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        4 days ago

        What are you using now? I’ve been toying with kagi for a while, but the idea of having to use an account that ties all my searches to me doesn’t sit well with my sense of privacy, and none of the others get results remotely close to google.

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          i disagree. Google’s results went to shit for me years ago. the first page was literally just ads, sponsored links that had nothing to do with my search or looked like what i was looking for but were phishing/malware sites, regular results that were less about what i searched and more about what google found more appropriate for me.

          i started to use duckduckgo despite its incredibly stupid name and it’s just like old times for me. except now it has AI assist which you can turn off or set how often you want to see it.

          two things that helped sell me DDG was bangs and DDG browser. i got used to using DDG browser as default on mobile except for things i wanted to have persistent sessions on, which are very rare it turns out. bangs also help you directly search specific sites or even google in the unlikely event i would want to try to search that monstrosity instead. if you search for something and you don’t find what you want and want to try Google instead, just add !g to the search and it directs you to Google search instead. !gi for Google images.

          there are tons of other bangs, like !w for Wikipedia and !imdb for… you’ll never guess but i use it sometimes.

        • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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          Duckduckgo is the “change in 5 seconds” answer. Its better but still problematic somewhat. The search results are at least a ton better though.

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            Thanks, maybe time to try again. I used it years ago but the results were not great.

    • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      The most tremendous dementia they have seen. The greatest people have looked at me and said it’s the biggest, greatest case they have seen. The biggest of all time.

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      5 days ago

      This is so succinctly Trump. 😂 Bravo! Really captures the essence in one and a half sentences.

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    This is probably payback for letting them off the hook on the monopoly suits. Expect more “payback” as they manipulate the narrative.

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    Wtf, confirmed. Ask about any person, any president on if they have dementia or not and it’ll answer

    Ask about trump and it refused to interact, just dumps a search results window with funnily enough the first result being a page about how Google is censoring this

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      6 days ago

      Surfacing the result of how they are censoring the results might be a canary in a coal mine, we can’t say we’re doing it but we can make the top result someone else saying we’re doing it.

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        The incentives don’t allow for this shit in an organization like Google. They can only respond to stock price and earnings.

        Very likely someone back channeled a demand and they folded like a deck of cards.

        So the team responsible for that AI box added Trump dementia to the list of things it won’t respond to.

        The team responsible for the news bits didn’t get the request so that just shows up in its place.

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          True for the organization as a whole, but a pissed off engineer or two could have done it, and the people above them are just leaning on “it’s the algorithm” since they don’t agree with the censorship either.

          I’m sure the C Suite will step in and make them change it but it takes time for them to address the issue.

          I’m not saying that’s what is going on, but I’ve witnessed my own department head pull similar tricks, albeit his tricks weren’t as high stakes as this would be.

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        I’ve been a Kagi user for over a year and I usually hate AI summaries. Though I must say I love how Kagi has implemented them as it gives sources where it found the info so you can dig deeper and see if what it said was actually correct.

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          Their AI is pretty good, both assistant and search summaries. Been using it extensively as it actually provides correct and objective information (at least more often than others). It is also privacy-first, so you don’t get those annoying personality shifts as with like GPT.

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      Thats not what theyre referring to. If you search “does donald trump have dementia”, the ai prompt doesnt respond from its gathered results. Someone physically disabled the function.

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        “We’re going to punish you by making the results a regular search.”

        They’re threatening us with a good time. 🤷

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          Absolutely agreed, but also a way to filter information from the masses as a whole. Bread and circuses and all that