• percent@infosec.pub
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    2 days ago

    This image implies that someone who would steal drugs from patients would not also purchase drugs from other people? Why not both?

    I’ve known quite a few addicts, and I don’t think any of them are as selective as this image describes.

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    7 days ago

    Let’s explore this.

    If we agree to entertain his lie for a moment, and the further implication that the people supposedly supplying her with drugs were responsible for her OD, doesn’t that same logic make gun dealers responsible for shootings?

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    7 days ago

    Blaming Mexicans as a people for the acts of a few? Monstrous and inane. Not a rational thought process for a healthy individual

    Stealing drugs from your patients? Monstrous but sympathy-worthy. Opiate addiction is life ruining, and I blame pharmaceutical companies and bodily destructive American work culture for this. I hope she has stayed far away from the medical field since then, for her benefit and for everyone else’s.

    Lying about one to cover up the other in order to renew a race war? Just evil.

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      7 days ago

      How is a care provider stealing medication from patients sympathy-worthy? That situation is way worse than someone just stealing drugs because a care provider has legal and ethical obligations to care for a patient.

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        I think it’s sympathy worthy because of the fact she wasn’t doing it to spite her patients. She was doing it because she was suffering from an addiction, and addiction makes people do things that they wouldn’t normally do.

        So it’s humanizing his mother and saying she was someone who was caught up in something that was too big for her to control and that is sad.

        That doesn’t excuse the fact that she raised a piece of shit child, or that she hurt people from her addiction. It just sets all of that to the side to focus on the one specific thing that someone with empathy can sympathize over.

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          As someone who grew up with a sibling who became an addict, leading them from being just a regular asshole to being downright abusive on top of all of the theft, volatility, and other drug-related issues…

          Yeah. Still, it took me some 15 years or so to reach that line of relative forgiveness.

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          Addicts deserve sympathy, of course. Medical professionals, who get high by stealing from patients while they’re supposed to be working with said patients, DO 👏 NOT 👏 DESERVE 👏 SYMPATHY 👏. She was responsible for the health and well-being of vulnerable people and she took advantage of that in two different ways. Fuck that, fuck her.

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        7 days ago

        Because it’s driven by intense desperation. You don’t help addicts by ambushing them, you help them by understanding what’s caused them to be the way that they are and how to break their system of dependence. You can’t advance as a society without being able to break unhealthy cycles. So yes, monstrous but sympathy-worthy

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          I’m sure you don’t mean it that way, but I think even the phrase “be the way that they are” is lacking empathy and looking at it the wrong way. It’s not about the way that they are; it’s about the way that they are handling the stressors in their life.

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          6 days ago

          No. I said that a medical professional who steals from patients is not sympathy-worthy, and that is not ambushing anyone. Also I didn’t say that people who are dealing with addiction are not worthy of sympathy. She is however, an asshole because she is a medical professional who harmed patients. “You don’t help addicts by ambushing them, you help them by understanding what’s caused them to be the way that they are and how to break their system of dependence.” —you, putting a lot of words and concepts into my post that I didn’t say or endorse and that makes what I said look negative and makes you look good. You can’t advance a society without breaking your own unhealthy cycles of lying for Internet points.

          • IndescribablySad@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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            6 days ago

            You’re digging into my extreme time crunch comment and finding hard nuggets. I assure you, each and every one of them was a kernel of corn. I wasn’t attacking you, I just had 30 seconds to explain addiction counseling to someone without a visible understanding of it.

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              “I just had 30 seconds to explain addiction counseling to someone without a visible understanding of it.”

              Lol you’ve completely misrepresented what I said in my comments and supplanted your own reality to, again, make yourself look good. And a visible understanding of addiction counseling? Lol. Lamo even. We at no point were talking about addiction counseling.

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                6 days ago

                I don’t mean to sound rude, but I don’t see this conversation going anywhere positive. You’re entirely too upset and I’m entirely too indifferent. If anyone asks, tell them you won this conversation and I’ll corroborate. Here’s an updoot

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    6 days ago

    James Donald Bowman is a sad excuse for a human being. I will always remind people of his real name he got from his deadbeat father and the mother he’s slandering here. Just to cuck for another asshole named Donald.

    Join me in deadnaming him!

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    He grew up in Middletown, Ohio. Even if she hadn’t been stealing drugs from patients, I know the drug scene there well enough to know plenty of dealers are white. But also the opiate epidemic in the rust belt wasn’t some cartel thing, it’s simple: the jobs left, nobody had any hope left, and suddenly that injury you got from doing manual labor for years wound up with this new painkiller the doctor was told isn’t addictive.

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    7 days ago

    To be fair, I suspect he’s talking about the heroin after she was fired from her nursing job for stealing drugs.

    But her addiction is what almost killed her. The (dubious) nationality of the dealers is irrelevant.

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        Because with morons we are dealing with if they can find one flaw they won’t believe any part of a logically laid out argument.

        JD Vance is popular because to stupid insecure men he seems like at the very least an awkward social person, yet they think in a debate he is a “bulldog” that goes after the “facts”.

        TLDR: they suck so bad they don’t even know they suck and why

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    6 days ago

    I’m just saying. She could have totally stole them from Mexicans.

    Which would technically not be a lie.

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    7 days ago

    If she was that desperate, odds are good she sucked a few dicks for drugs, too. Surely not news to him, those trailer walls are thin.

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      That would probably happen after she got caught stealing from patients. Which he may have still been around for–I don’t know the details.

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    6 days ago

    if your mom is stealing medication, which it sounds like from a hospital and using it on herself, with no proper diagnosis/condition, its ON HER if she almost dies from it.

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    7 days ago

    Okay, but you can’t say that during an election because it’s rude and divisive. You’re not taking the problem of illegal Mexicans trafficking in double plus illegal drugs seriously, and you shouldn’t denigrate a rich man’s mother.

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      So many references make me want to reread books I read decades ago. I appreciated them at the time, but I think it might be different now.