Not surprising, the card was filled with… UNCOMPRESSIBLE DATA!
🫵🫅
They should have built the hull out of SanDisk cards.
I’d go for a mix of 50% sd cards and 50% controllers. Maybe 40/60, science is not decided yet.
Or old school Nokias…
I still have one of those. I use it to split bricks when I’m putting up a wall.
Bricks? I used mine to process diamonds. Cracked them up real good. It still had its shine, too.
Tragic?
Try “predictable”
Please watch the Netflix documentary if you havent.
The sub was never meant for that depth and they knew it.
They could literally hear the carbon fibers snapping every dive.
They had to retire an entire chassis because it failed at similar depths.
Nahh, the tragedy is rich people think they are better than physics itself.
The tragedy is that more of these rich people don’t test that belief against reality.
At least two billionaires keep firing rockets into space as a hobby. It’s only a matter of time.
But they put other people on those rockets, not themselves.
Appeal to their vanity. Start saying how brave the astronauts are and make them celebrities. Give them all the credit. Don’t mention the funders at all.
Next ones go up with a billionaire on board for sure.
This was a reverse tragedy.
Trying to do extreme engineering on the cheap.
it was DIY from start o finish on the craft. as opposed to spending 5-10mil on a spherical TITATANIUM sub. instead he used carbon fiber which was defective airplane parts.
So his goal was to make a deep sea taxi of sorts. Rich guy affordable and capable of carrying more than 1 or 2 people at a time. Based on what I’ve read and seen he had two main reasons for the design:
- Titanium/steel would’ve been too heavy and required a different design.
- A sphere has too little volume to carry the number of passengers he wanted so he used a cylinder.
His use of CF was not only mostly untested but where it had been tried it was found lacking. It is strong in one direction but not others. The manufacturing process was very difficult and fraught with issues. Making such a large component that thick meant many many wrappings that had to be precisely done. For instance, they would get bulges that had to be reduced immediately or they’d amplify with more wrappings. So they would grind down those spots and wrap over them. The problem here is now you’ve broken the fibers and created end points and fracture initiation points. Things like the junction between the metal end caps and the CF tube were also an issue.
He was very cocky about how often you could reuse the vessel and tried to be cheap on testing which would involve sacrificing vessels. At 5,600 PSI small things that you could ignore in, say, an airplane structure, become wildly amplified.
Personally I didn’t see the point of the whole trip except for bragging rights. You’d be watching most things on a monitor anyway and your porthole was this little, very thick, acrylic hole. You might as well send a robot down and watch on a screen on the ship.
being a cylinder there was also greater surface area for pressure points too. i read the articles after it imploded, he reused the sub, after it already has been too deep.
It is also inherently weak. With a sphere it is all compression. With a cylinder you get compression and tension.
How many atmospheres can this ship withstand?
Well it’s a
spaceshipairplane, so I’d say anywhere between zero and one."
I think it’s more like what are the chances it fails while we’re in it? Fuck it.
Considering that is basically the only time it could fail, I would say the chances were pretty high.
The main issue with the Titan wasn’t as much the depth as it was cyclic loading
No, it was entirely the depth. They tested it in the lab and saw many failures but never changed the design.
It originally was an SSD drive
The “D” in “SSD” is drive.
lol out loud
BRB, typing my PIN number into the ATM machine to get some cash for SCUBA apparatus.
Damn, that’s promotional material that SanDisk would probably not want to have.
Why? It wasn’t there submersible, their product wasn’t responsible for its destruction and frankly there is very little in the way of public sympathy.
The product is not even rated as waterproof and yet it’s survived months at the bottom of the ocean after having survived a destructive implosion.
That’s hella marketing.
The marketing is more for the submersible camera that survived, just like it was designed to do, the SD card was just inside the camera and no water even touched it. I don’t think the SD card should be getting any credit.
Yeah I know but marketing is marketing. It doesn’t really have to make any sense.
If the Xbox controller had survived I’m sure Microsoft would have made big of that even though it’s basically irrelevant to the product.
They didn’t even use an Xbox controller, they cheaped out and used an ancient Logitech clone
Why not? If anything, it shows how durable their product is. If it were my company, I would market the shit out of this.
It shows how durable their product is… when stored in an enclosure designed to protect it. The SD card probably didn’t even experience an increase in air pressure.
Nah, more like great promo material for the camera that survived the whole mess mostly intact.
Too bad they dropped the ball by not having the decryption keys for the actual video on the card.
Edit: Apparently they’ve recover the files.
New form of key compression unlocked!
sd is so sturdy it can withstand pressures of depts at 12000ft.
“Somewhat disappointingly, the images and videos shared in the report were taken in the vicinity of the ROV shop at the Marine Institute”
There, saved you a long read
What do you mean “tragic”?
Well, that kid didn’t ask to be there, so that’s pretty tragic.
A tragedy is an event of great loss, usually of human life. Such an event is said to be tragic. Traditionally, the event would require “some element of moral failure, some flaw in character, or some extraordinary combination of elements” to be tragic.
To me this is tragic even in the Greek sense
Define “tragic”
I’d say “expected” might be a more fitting word.
Spoiler: Nothing about the big boom or that trip was on it (as designed, lol), but it’s cool that it survived.
Gotta love that SD technology. Now if only we could build a sub with it.
Just make the next sub out of SD cards, Nokia 3310 phones, piloted with a Logitech controller.
Fuck it. Mad Katz w/ turbo
shouldve made the sub out of layers of sd cards.
Tragic? What was tragic about it? It were just some insanely rich doing something insanely stupid: dive in an untested home made tube built from rejected discarded build materials to dive to insane depths to disrupt a protected monument of something which killed thousands.
The kid that was killed didn’t want to be there. He was terrified. He only went because rich daddy insisted & paid for him to come along. That’s tragic.
He did according to his mom’s statement to BBC and he was 19.
Still a super rich kid who got everything he ever wanted, except for this instance.
Be better
There was also a famous ocean explorer on board they were using as a prop for their company. He’d done great work exploring shipwrecks previously and not a billionaire
And despite his knowledge and experience, chose to join the haphazard mission in pursuit of something he apparently valued more than the risks. So it sounds like he made a very clear choice and was dealt the expected hand from said choice.
I hate rich people too, but this is a reddit-tier comment.
That even a depth rated camera is broken can easily explained with the point that the implosion produced shock waves with pressure spikes easily exceeding the official ratings of the camera.
Spared no expense…
Kinda seems like it was the right call if it survived an implosion
Yeah, but 512 GB? That’s gotta be overwriting some data. The amount of data generated by sensors is massive.
What sensors do you think this was recording data from?
Depth, pressure, location, etc.
And what do you think that polling rate was to fill up a 512 GB SD card? It’s all speculation but this isn’t a super collider, we shouldn’t need sub second polling of a vehicle that can only move 5.6 km/h.
And even if you sampled at 10 sps, and did 50 sensors at 10b, you would still only be looking 5000bps or 5.8x10-7 GBps, meaning that it would take roughly 26 years to fill up a 512GB SD card.
While I don’t know for how long the sub had been submerged, I doubt it was close to a quarter of a century. If that was the case, I believe that we would have been talking about that as well. Even if it was 500 sensors, at 100sps at 12b we’d be looking at 79days.
IMHO there’s only a few things a 512GB SD card would be used for. And I hope it was music, because I don’t think we should watch the final moments of these people’s lives.
Dude the article is right there
But I don’t wanna.
It’s not going to have location data. GPS doesn’t work under even very shallow water.
Nobody said GPS (except for you). Location data does not mean GPS.
Ok, so tell me how you are going to get a location fix underwater, in the dark, with no landmarks to orient yourself, in constantly shifting currents?
Even the Navy’s most advanced nuclear submarines have to surface to get their location. This thing was a carbon fiber tube with an Xbox controller and an idiot designer.
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Scott Manley has a one hour video going over all of this, including the ridiculous redaction of
James Cameronproviding expert testimony by first saying he directed The AbyssJames Cameron is genuinely a world expert on submersibles. He made The Abyss and Titanic because he loves the deep sea
He made Titanic solely as an excuse to go down to the Titanic and film the wreck. He didn’t even have an idea for the story when he pitched the movie
Then he became the first person to ever design and dive his own submersible to Chellenger Deep, and only the second ever submersible to reach that depth (after the US Navy’s Trieste)
He’s definitely an expert, I just thought it was funny they redacted his name like we wouldn’t know who he was.
lol he first said he directed Titanic.
The actual interview: https://media.defense.gov/2025/Sep/17/2003800984/-1/-1/0/CG-115_INTERVIEW-DEEP-SEA-EXPLORER_REDACTED.PDF
You don’t have to get very far to realize who it is.
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I would feel bad if we had to kill a very young adult and respectable frenchman for every three asshole-rich fat cats. Maybe I’m wrong about the frenchman, but I don’t recall him being rich, just the ‘expert’ on the dive. I think tragic still applies for them.
Well, he was probably “rich” in that he has acquired his own wealth, but I don’t think that’s what you mean.
Tragic?
Yeah we should build a bigger submarine that fits more billionaires. But no kids this time.
There were kids in it…? Christ :(
Yeah. One of the rich guys brought his son. Reported as “university aged” but still.
Over 18, but still young enough to not be predestined to become like the other billionaires I guess.
and he didn’t want to go, or I’m mixing things?
His mom refused to go and tried to convince the dad to cancel the trip.
Over 18, but he was the only one that doesn’t want to be there. He was scared but didn’t want to disappoint his father. That poor kid and his mother. Can’t imagine how she must feel. This is why being a good parent takes more than resources. I would never want a relationship with my kids where they felt pressured into doing something just to make me happy. I’d hope I’d make different decisions as a father if I was in that situation. My son openly tells me about his hesitant feelings towards an objectively dangerous trip, I’m not making him go at the very least. And I’m probably not going myself because me and my son can do something else together.
Quote from his mother on giving up her seat to her son - BBC News:
“Then I stepped back and gave them space to set [Suleman] up, because he really wanted to go,” she said.
One was a kid, one was a person who spent a chunk of her life saving for a ticket.
Most of them were just regular people.
There were no women on the submersible.
That may have been a passenger on a different dive then.
No, the “kid” was 19
