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    It’s on the Project 2025 list. As such, I expect it to fall, like Roe.

    Heritage is clearly funding this erasure of what We The People want.

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        Find out where the heritage foundation meets, and have a crowd gather outside. Lock the doors. Burn the building. Let no one out.

        That’s how we get change.

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          If you did anything. They will use drone strikes and the conservative media will cover for them.

          To stop this admin if it comes to it. We’d have to knock out comms for all the drone operation bases.

          Are you fucking daft. This whole comment reads like someone who learned everything about the world from action video games and movies, and I guess that tracks with our population currently. The Drone Command Bases will have flashing mission-icons above them, right?

          Congratulations, the brain rot has metastasized in you. Stop role-playing, I beg you to go outside.

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            Mate. I’m just using my logic that is being adjusted by the ways Trump uses drone strikes. He will not hold back against the general public. I hope you understand this. No one he considers an enemy is safe. Look at what he is doing to traffickers. They can paint it any way they want. And they will escalate domestically. If anyone starts to really start a resistance. I’m just telling ya how I see it playing out.

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              I really feel like our movement has a chance at success if we collect enough power-ups and body armor upgrades.

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          Oh yes because doing indiscriminate drone strikes was so effective in Iraq and Afghanistan. Drone strikes are precision strikes meaning they are generally better for taking out a core group of high value targets, but they’d be right fucking useless on a large scale function. There’s a reason that the Navy more or less shutdown the drone program in WW2 that being that when the best way to deal with an enemy is to just to throw as much explosives as possible at a problem high capacity bombers are better, this general rule of thumb still reigns. You cant occupy and pacify an area with just drones because sooner or later folks will figure out counter measures, you can’t really do that as easily when an army is bearing down on you.

          Not to say drone strikes can’t be effective when used in conjunction with traditional warfare, but we’ll look at the war in Ukraine the Ruskies and Ukrainians keep figuring out new ways to jam each other’s drones. It would probably only take a week at more for basic countermeasures to occur in the US, it could literally be shining a spotlight at the drone to fuck with it’s camera depending on the model and the lights output.

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    It’s as if these people don’t remember the riots that happened to earn equality.

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        And a president who wants to shoot those protestors, and a federal police, answerable to no one, who can definitely do it. I’m giving it a year before we see at least one protest met with overwhelming lethal force.

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            expect

            That’s an odd way to spell hope, but you do you. If we didn’t have violent pushback when vans of plain clothes cops were shooting people when the entire reason for protests was a cop killing someone, we’re not going to get violent pushback now.

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      The false narrative that basic rights were earned through “civil debate” has been parroted by right wing talking heads for so long.

      Most people are uninformed, and have an impression that rights just kind of happened via peaceful protests or debates, either due to their own ignorance or learning a very whitewashed version of history.

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      I’ll vote for anyone legally dismantling SCOTUS. Also if we can’t get rid of the supreme court can we at least move it to the northern most tip of alaska? Nowhere in the constitution does it say scotus has to be in DC.

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      Last presidential election had the highest turnout of voters and youth voters in American history.

      Our problem is much more depressing and much more deeply baked-in.

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          That’s probably accurate but not unusual, it still had some of the highest turnout in history and the data backs this up, we didn’t have as much of turnout problem as an attention span and informed voter problem.

          The problem was more revealed in exit polling determining that people largely didn’t see a difference between candidates, saw no difference between Harris and Biden (kinda true) but saw Trump as a “lets see how he does” option because he wasn’t in charge when egg prices went up.

          Studies have shown the Trump beat out Dems in all categories and it has a lot to do with people largely losing interest in politics and just marginally paying attention to social media propaganda, which skews heavily right. Financial uncertainty often pushes populations towards conservatism and authoritarian leaders, and Dems are very, very bad at this kind of populism.

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        It’s hard to rig an entire country, but it gets a lot easier when you really only have to rig 7 states. Then it gets even easier when all you have to do is program the voting machines to switch the votes in a single race. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of ballots with a straight Democratic ticket, but with Trump at the top.

        Do you know a single person that voted that way? Have you ever heard of a specific person who did? Has the media ever trotted out a single person, anywhere in the country, that voted that way? I’ve never heard of a single example, and yet within minutes of the race going to Trump, the Dems were proclaiming that he’d won “fair & square,” before the dust had even settled to start looking at an investigation.

        They just conceded the election security of the race from the outset, as if they’d decided in advance that they knew they’d lose by cheating, and they didn’t know how to stop it, so they planned in advance to pretend it didn’t happen, rather than explain their spectacular dereliction to the nation.

        That race was the worst example of election fraud in American history, and it was done in the wide open, and the Dems did absolutely nothing to stop it or investigate it. This was the one race that Donald Trump absolutely had to win to stay out of prison. He has cheated at literally EVERYTHING in his entire life. Now we are supposed to believe that the one race where his life literally depends on winning, is the one, single instance in his entire life where he decided to play totally by the rules, and NOT cheat.

        Please, others may be that stupid, but I’m not.

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          Do you know a single person that voted that way? Have you ever heard of a specific person who did?

          You likely don’t live in a conservative or even liberal area. The demographics of the last election might also be throwing people, as a lot of people you wouldn’t expect had their hate and fear ramped up and didn’t pay much attention past “Trump is gonna hurt people you don’t like” so we had a lot of young people, people of color and even goddamn immigrants voting for Trump.

          Have you not seen the vast neighborhoods of Trump yard signs and stickers? I know you and others want to believe that the election was handedly stolen but it was mostly just manipulated via social engineering on larger scales. Easier to do, and pans out in the exit polling and the large number of Americans who straight up say they didn’t really care who won and stuck to Trump because they saw Harris as more Biden.

          The reality is at once more depressing and more disappointing, so I get why it’s easier to believe that nobody actually supports Trump. And honestly I don’t think people do, it’s just that the people who matter most in electoral politics stopped caring.

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            First of all, I live in Florida, sooo Conservative region? Yeah.

            Trump/Putin/Musk - two of the worst foreign Psychopathic Oligarchs in the world, with infinite access to money and the best and most experienced computer programmers and hackers on the planet, with no loyalty or patriotism towards the United States, teamed up with an American Psychopathic Oligarch wannabe, who also has no loyalty, all viewing America as a big, fat, lazy RICH target to be ruthlessly and mercilessly exploited.

            All they had to do was swap the votes for one race, in 7 states. That kind of cheating would be difficult for individual Congressional or Senate races, but not for the presidential race. All that was need was access to the voting machines, and Putin’s hackers have no doubt been working on that for years.

            We all saw it happen. Both Trump and Musk had multiple meetings with Putin, by phone and in person, during the Biden administration, and they didn’t try to hide it. It was all reported widely in the media.

            And now EVERYTHING that was promised in P2025 is happening, and STILL people want to pretend that it was a fair election.

            They told us they were going to steal the election, they did everything they said, the results are exactly what they said they would be, and yet, somehow there are people who still believe that MAGA won fairly.

            WTF is WRONG with everybody?

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              I’m not saying they won “fairly” because there is no such thing. I am saying that if we shift the blame for this conservative sweep that is not just isolated the US, on election rigging and not a massive problem with our society, our communication and our social systems, we are going to fucking lose harder next time. It’s denial. It’s the same as pretending nazis were inhuman monsters and not regular people like any of us.

              It’s dangerous.

              It’s as dangerous as fucking binary thinking where we can’t accept that there is nuance. The left is as bad as the right in this. If someone says “There may be complications” that doesn’t mean “DUR DEE DUR TRUMP DID NOTHING WRONG.”

              There are shades of grey in the world. The right doesn’t understand this, but if you CAN understand this, you are better than them, you are smarter than them. Otherwise you’re just another vulnerable mind in a world that now preys on vulnerable minds.

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                THEY WON BY CHEATING! If we don’t address that single issue, they will do it worse next time, and he is going to win in 2028 with 98% of the “vote,” and use that to justify ignoring the Constitutional prohibition of a third term.

                You can’t reasonably expect to win against a election fraud scheme that has already succeeded once, and is in the process of getting even more streamlined.

                You can keep trying to find the people who refused to vote in the most attended election in history, but it will never be enough to outpace vote switching, it only gives them more votes to switch.

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                  Capital letters don’t really change anything. I’ve said what I said based on decades of watching these things, I know how the world works. If we chase around cheating evidence we will lose even more. It’s not how the game works. The real problem is people and what Americans think and feel, if you fix any level of cheating you will still have that as a much worse problem.

                  But this is also why we don’t see politicians going after election fraud to any large degree, because they also understand how things work.

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        The Trump/ Putin/ Musk cabal rigged the election, and we ALL know it.

        He won EVERY swing state? Puh-leeeze. I’ve got good Critical Thinking Skills, and they have been screeching in my brain ever since Election Day 2024.

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          Unfortunately, we have an entire civilization with “screeching messages” in their ears right now, we have a population largely reactive and only thinking that they’re thinking, people are fed nonsense, a deluge of headlines that blur reality and fantasy. I have to explain to people working in my team in the morning huddles when they are chatting that no, we did not in fact discover Atlantis and a mermaid kingdom. No, there are no giant floating eyeballs in space. We did not discover a city on Mars, aliens have (as far as we know) NOT been in contact with anyone, much less politicians. When media and headlines on stories are designed to sensationalize, people stop paying attention and stop believing anything but what they want to hear, and you can change people’s ideas what they want to hear.

          I’m quite sure efforts were made to swing the election manually, via voting machines and ballots, maybe those efforts made a difference, but a lot of people who have never been involved in the logistics of voting in a country this size have no concept of how hard it is to rig. Remember, this was part of the huge contention with Trump when he lost in 2020, he claimed fraud and because of those claims everyone got a better glimpse into how secure the US’s elections are. They are secure simply because the scale of the operation needed to change results is staggering.

          I’m not saying you’re entirely wrong, but I think the election was stolen via more subtle and broad, sweeping methods, which is more efficient and less easy to track down individuals responsible - I am talking large-scale social engineering. It doesn’t take a lot and it doesn’t give back a lot, but it can be enough to turn a tide, it can be enough to shift perspectives just enough, it can be enough to capitalize on public mistrust and frustration and it can select for the people most vulnerable to specific, tailored messaging.

          And this was before AI was what it is today, I expect the next elections are going to be even more baffling.

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      At some point we need to tell the “internet people who tell us who to blame” that hillary would have won in 2016 if not for the electoral college. At some point people just give up and that was the entire democratic party in 2024.

      Not a single person in the democrats has a plan to fix democracy in the US and until they do the gerrymandering, electoral college and republican rule by minority will continue

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        At some point people just give up

        Why? They won in 2020…

        Did you all fucking forget or something?

        Keep waiting for perfection, dumbass. Meanwhile, Republicans are destroying the country.

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          You’re so right, support for genocide was just a minor mark against perfection. Keep compromising, soon you’ll be agreeing that democrats shouldn’t fight for marriage equality because some other issue is on the table and we shouldn’t let perfect be the enemy of slightly better than rabid nazis.

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          2020 was only winnable for biden because trump fucked up covid so bad. The media hole is so assymmetric that a solid 25% of the US population (including donald trump, because this shit works on him too) believe biden was president in 2020. The fabricated immigration crisis was also extremely successful. Democrats keep trying to meet halfway on whole lies and it never worked.

          Dems did nothing to break up the media/tech oligarchs during that time and now we’re paying for it. Dems have to be willing to play hard ball democracy. And most likely ICE and the FBI will make a bunch of crazy arrests during election season to try and hamper elections and smear candidates.

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        Cool story, would still have been nice to avoid the transgender genocide or killing health insurance.

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          I’m sure all the finger pointing at neighbors will help, instead of, you know, taking 5 minutes to understand how we got here and why its going to continue.

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            65 million don’t vote. “But Trump” is not a legit platform to run on. You have to give voters something to vote for. Dems fucked up

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              That’s exactly it. Dems keep throwing winnable elections and when they do get power they don’t attempt to implement any reforms to make it harder for republicans to hold power both electorally and monetarily so their voters get poorer and disenfranchised and leave.

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                Donald Trump is the president you fucking moron. Happy to vote for Biden in 2020 but not Harris, essentially just a younger Biden.

                Two options. You’re phony or you’re stupid.

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                  I voted for Harris in California. I didn’t like it and it didn’t impact much, but I did. She still lost because she didn’t make herself different enough from Biden, who had low polling rates, plus courted Republicans who got us into this mess.

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              Democratic VOTERS fucked up, the party did not. So many pathetic excuses for such a stupid decision in November.

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                The party didn’t even hold a primary and said you have to vote for who we tell you to vote for. “Ugh fine, what is she running on?” … “Nothing! Do you want Trump to win?”

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      All the people who did vote for the cheeto are responsible as well. And I think that was the point, marriage equality was on the ballot 14 years after the supreme court ruling

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      Hey, guys, I found that comment! You know, the one where some smug prick tries to remind everyone how correct they were… ::checks watch:: 11 months ago.

      Thank goodness they showed up. I was afraid there was going to be a political post that didn’t devolve into liberals and leftists screaming at each other about lesser evils and supporting genocide.

      I guess someone needs to do the important work of making sure those who oppose christo-fucking-fascists never find common ground.

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          Lol. Imagine thinking you have any idea what the fuck you are talking about. It really shouldn’t matter so god damn much but I voted, for Harris. I’m just not an immature shitbird that can’t empathize and can’t move on.

          They messed up, sure. Get over it and solve today’s problems instead of constantly, repeatedly, over and over again, bring it up and lording it over them. Infighting keeps Trump in power. You have no moral high ground.

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      That’s all nice and good but you’re just wrong because of the electoral college. I voted, but I also knew that in my state, my vote would not change the result and it has never changed the result in my lifetime. So if one of my friends decided to stay home, I wouldn’t judge them for that. There aren’t enough of us in our state to change the results. That’s the sad reality, and you need to understand that so that you stop blaming innocent well-intentioned people who actually understand their own reality better than you do.

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        Those that chose not to vote are absolutely responsible for this.

        You’re not going to wriggle out of culpability.

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          I did vote, so let’s dispense with that false self-righteousness at the top.

          Sure lots of people didn’t vote, but that happens in every election. There were more votes than ever before, so this election actually had FEWER non-voters than ever before.

          They contributed, but they are not fully RESPONSIBLE for it. The Biden administration let MAGA run wild, instead of declaring it a domestic terrorist operation, and a serious national security threat, and rounded up ALL of their treasonous leaders, including propagandists like Rupert Murdoch and Steve Bannon, and sending them to Gitmo for extensive interrogation.

          The Biden administration allowed them to work their election fraud strategies in the wide open, as we saw it all happening before our eyes. They even admitted to it over and over as it was going on, and the Biden administration did less than nothing to combat it. That was far more destructive than FEWER non-voters than any previous election.

          You can’t allow MAGA to steal the election, and then blame ourselves for their crimes.

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            That’s a lot of words to say that you don’t know how to hold people accountable.

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              Blaming the fewest number of non-voters in history instead of the worst election fraud in history is lazy thinking.

              If you worked in bank, and you knew you had employees who were openly stealing from your bank, would you ignore the theft, and instead blame the customers who aren’t putting enough money in the bank to stay ahead of the embezzlement? “Gee, if we only had more people putting money in the bank, maybe it wouldn’t make any difference how much my dishonest employees steal. It’s the fault of our non-customers who refuse to be part of our openly corrupt system that our bank is failing, not the thieves.”

              That’s exactly how Dems have treated the biggest election fraud in American history, yet I’M not holding people accountable?

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    Gosh it is almost like these MAGAts are just doing whatever the hell they want. I have a few things we can do when we get back in power.

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      The small government is the biggest lie pushed by the right wing side of our country. In fact, when you read where the money comes from, it actually comes from a “Dark Enlightenment” coalition of techno-fascists looking to dismantle democracy.

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    So predictable. The angry assholes hated losing that ruling, as well as losing the culture war around it. That’s why they didn’t really give up, but switched to harping on bathroom bills and “men in women’s sports”. The wedge was trans and they were going to hammer on that until they got enough Confederates in office to, yeah, attack trans, but also go after gays, even if, or even especially because of, the culture being against them for it. They hope to deport, imprison, threaten and smash down enough people to reverse that culture war, too, believe that.

    They won’t be happy until they turn on streaming services or their television or go to the movies and won’t have to see any gays, unless it is for comic effect or the like. They definitely don’t want to see anything normalized…

    This might not be reversed in the near future - maybe. But the weirdoes on the right will treat this just like they did abortion. They won’t give up, even if it takes them 50 years to take the rights of others away.

    I just have no idea why gays voted for Taco. Or any Confederates for that matter. It just makes no sense at all. I know some gays IRL who have voted for Taco. Twice. But I guess there was actually a group called “Jews for Hitler”, too, until the Nazis shut it down…

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      That’s why they didn’t really give up, but switched to harping on bathroom bills and “men in women’s sports”.

      I’m so glad democrats circled the wagons around vulnerable minorities on this one. Can you imagine if they just ignored it and let republicans set the narrative, or worse, ran the “men in women’s sports” hate in their own ads?

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    Do you mean that when the concurrence for the overturning of Roe v Wade said that they should also have another look at marriage equality, that meant that this was on the roadmap? Huh. Who could have possibly seen this coming?

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      I’m sure they’ll get around to resurrecting anti-miscegenation laws if their speed run is any indication…

      Also, many, many people were trying to warn others about this. The right is too glued to Bullshit Mountain outlets to know anything at all. Of course they are just a lost cause. The “centrists” were actually saying things like “but isn’t Project 2025 just a liberal conspiracy theory?” without bothering to spend two minutes to even look.

      And of course, a lot of self-styled super-edgy leftists were often lecturing people like myself about why voting for Democrats just furthers the “uniparty”. That was when they took a break from getting on their high horse about some minor point about terms, labels, phrases, pronouns and checking for “intersectional” points as to whether anyone was worth listening to in their silly Oppression Olympics game. Goddess help you and you better check your privilege if you were to try to inform them on anything if you scored lower on the intersectionality…sigh. And that’s not even getting into the Gaza Single Issue Voters, fuck. Heaven forbid they should use some of this energy to go out and vote, and not a stupid protest vote, either.

      So, as you point out - so very many people did see this coming, and a lot of other people felt quite comfortable in ignoring that set of people… 🙄

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    Well, Trump has taught us that you can ignore the Supreme Court if your party controls Congress. So if there ever is another Democrat president with Democrat control of Congress, just revert all this and ignore whatever the SC says.

    We should only be elevating Democrats who make it clear they are ready to play hardball.

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    They might just punt it to the states like they’ve been doing. Welcome back to the 90’s.

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        They’re starting with trans, working their way to gay. Trans was their gateway item, it helped get them elected. (They tried gay marriage during campaigning, it didn’t stick, there was too much public support). Even so, now that they’re in, they’re going there.

        This is all per Project 2025. They’re not going to touch slavery, but the items with a religious, Heritage mandate will be torn apart.

        They’re going to hit hard when they get to women, not just an erosion of legal status but bodily autonomy. Ownership, by men, in terms of loss of legal status in re to pregnancy. Remember, MAGA ran on a reaction to women’s lib.

        They’ve already declared decreased fertility, the current 1.6 replacement rate, a matter of national security.

        They’re just grabbing more power (and money) and beating the public down into a more complacent state before kicking 51% of the population in the head.

        P25 dismantles HIPAA and ends death with dignity at the national level as well. The religious mandates are pretty awful. I do not have much hope that gay marriage will survive the Supreme Court.

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          Remember, MAGA ran on a reaction to women’s lib.

          I consider “maga” to be mostly a nonsense word to give cover to the fact that the Republican Party is full of Republicans. They’ve hated women’s lib for wayyyy longer than they started using that nonsense baby-talk word. I don’t think there should be any distinction drawn between the teabaggers that rebranded themselves as “maga” and the Republican Party.

          They are essentially the same thing, and have always stood for this kind of stuff, no matter the window dressing they used to put on it before. Their code words like “family values” were not fooling anyone…

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        “Who am I to stop an enterprising young person from willingly entering into a contract of indentured servitude?”

        • Clarence Thomas, probably
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        The first one has already been floated. The second just comes later. They’re looking at doing an end run on slavery by declaring anyone a criminal, refusing due process, and sending them to work on a farm for nothing.

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          Yea but we have the knowledge to fuck that shit up. You think there is a lot of e coli on food now, just wait until all those prisoners are purposely shitting on the food.

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        Slavery never went away. It’s alive and well in the Alabama prison system. They are building more prisons there, too. That way, all the blacks pushed into poverty after no affirmative action can be exploited accordingly.

        This world is so bad.

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        Yes, but have you considered this?

        One side.

        You’re in a mono-party system.

        Figure it out.

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          You’re in a mono-party system.

          Lol. Because things are exactly the same when Democrats are in control as when Republicans are.

          Looks at the news. Looks out window at armed, masked men patrolling the streets for brown people. Sees the flagrant Constitutional violations. The unbelievably blatant corruption coming from within the White House. The increased racism. Uptick in hate crimes.

          Yep, that’s actually complete horseshit.

          NOT. THE. SAME.

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      “tHaNkS nOn-VoTeRs”

      proceeds to support a party that skipped the primaries, has been anointing unlikable candidates for over 10 years with zero input

      “ITs ThE nOn VoTeRs!!”

      Maybe your shit party should hold actual primaries where people can select their candidate? Maybe, when in power, they should actually make meaningful change that helps people? Maybe they should actually appoint supreme court judges when given the chance?

      Somehow when they aren’t in power, they are spinelessly fighting “if only we were in power we could fix all of this” then when they’re in power, they are somehow even more powerless “the Republicans keep blocking us”.

      You got to be a real piece of work to think putting your trust in that party will fix anything. They are controlled opposition and the democracy has been lost for a long time.

      Non-voters already know this.

      Instead of attacking them, how about you hold your party accountable? They stole a primary from Bernie Sanders twice, and went ahead and eliminated primaries this last time. What will it take for you to look in the mirror and reflect instead of blaming everything around you?

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        Maybe your shit party should hold actual primaries where people can select their candidate?

        Fair. Although they didn’t really have time when, a few months out, everyone started freaking out about Biden’s age and demanding a new candidate.

        Maybe, when in power, they should actually make meaningful change that helps people?

        This shows your lack of knowledge regarding this subject. If you review Democrat voting history, bills they have passed, you’d see that they’ve accomplished quite a bit of value for average Americans. Biden alone made significant strides. They’ve certainly done FAR, FAR more than Republicans ever have. In my own life, I remember when they gave me affordable healthcare through the ACA when I had zero healthcare before.

        Maybe they should actually appoint supreme court judges when given the chance?

        Republicans have blocked them from doing so and people like RBG selfishly held onto her position until the Democrats couldn’t replace her.

        I think you think Democrats have had ACTUAL TOTAL CONTROL more often and for longer periods of time than they actually have. Because when they don’t have total control, they have to convince Republicans to vote with them, which Republicans won’t do.

        They stole a primary from Bernie Sanders twice, and went ahead and eliminated primaries this last time.

        Lol. No they didn’t. Where do you get your information? Inside your own head? Democrat primaries were held in 2016, 2020, and 2024. Bernie LOST by not getting enough popular votes. AFTER the 2024 primaries enough Democrat voters expressed enough concern over Biden’s age that they offered up another candidate (the VP) without another primary, because it’s kind of hard to hold primaries in the last couple months leading up to an election. You can argue that it was wrong to not hold a second round of primaries for that and I wouldn’t necessarily disagree.

        I guess my question to you is…what alternative do you have? We are literally living the repercussion of people not voting or voting 3rd party because they’re upset with Democrats. The repercussion? A fascist party literally waltzed into power and we’re witnessing the flagrant disregard for our Constitution and the deconstruction of our Democracy.

        Do you think protesting by not voting or voting for a 3rd party that CANNOT win helps make things better? Do you not grasp that the intelligent thing to do is vote for the lesser of two evils and then work to reform that lesser evil by voting out the candidates that won’t get onboard with more progressive policies? Political party reform has happened multiple times throughout American history and conservatives just did it, in the worst way possible, to the Republican party over the last decade or so.

        And to be clear about the chances of a 3rd party candidate winning. They stand a snowball’s chance in hell. Why? Because the 3rd party candidate with the most votes in 2024 was magician Jill Stein, who magically appears right before every election, gets crushed, then magically disappears again. And she got a whopping HALF OF A SINGLE PERCENT of the total votes cast. Proving, beyond doubt, that no 3rd party stands a chance. And, to be more clear, no 3rd party is even trying to become viable. None are doing what’s necessary to start winning local and state elections to get more than ZERO representation in Congress.

        Welcome to reality. You should adapt to it.

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      Wait until Clarence Thomas comes home from work to his bulldog wife, and tell her that their marriage is officially null and void.

      Then there will be a new opening on the Supreme Court.

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      I will laugh so fucking hard if America bends over while that happens. To be clear I bet they will but I hope I’m wrong and they finally grow a spine.

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    Would they hear the case if a court clerk said she would no longer hand out marriages for anyone not religious as that is offensive to them?

    Or maybe people who are left handed marrying people who are right handed? The abomination!

    Where does this bullshit stop?

    Government should NOT be interested in marriage. They simply should not care. The MOST they should do is have ready to made contracts if they want to manage divorce, child support, and death wealth distribution. Those are contracts. Contracts are made between consenting adults. The government either lets their citizens enter into contracts or not.

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      That’s what I’m talking about. Use their own bullshit against them. Refuse to serve/marry Christians and see how fast they say “not like that!”