- cross-posted to:
- technicallythetruth@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- technicallythetruth@lemmy.world
You must log in or register to comment.
Think about how dumb the average person is. And then remember that half of them are dumber than that!
Carlin was a prophet
But he was shit at statistics. He mixes up median and mean.
Yes but I don’t know who the average person is, maybe I know a lot of dumber than average people!
Err… im not sure everyone in this thread is getting the joke?
That the bottom 25% of scorers in standardized tests are in the bottom quartile of the distribution, which is literally defined as the bottom 25%, but the Twitter user seems to be using that fact to justify something yet he’s literally just stating a fact?
The bottom 25% will always exist and there will always be 25% of the results contained within it.
Not sure how anyone doesn’t get it, but this Twitter screenshot exists, so there’s that.
Oh, sorry, this “x” exists. Dumb fucking name.
Am I misreading this or are you doubling down on not getting it’s satire?
I like you kid, you’ve got grit.
The twitter account is a satire account. They’re trying to stir the pot.
But have you considered that a whopping 25% of satire posts are in the bottom quartile on the funniness bell curve?
Don’t forget that about half the population have an IQ below average
And the average IQ is already pretty low.
Good thing that IQ numbers are largely pointless.
“Money doesn’t matter” – rich people
“Look doesn’t matter” – beautiful people
“IQ doesn’t matter” – intelligent people
Edit: “IQ is important” – high IQ people
Intelligence matters. Just that IQ number is not a very good indicator of intelligence.
That’s my intended joke: intelligent people see that IQ is bullshit while high IQ people don’t (implying there is no overlap)
Poe’s law is a bitch.
I guess the education system is really struggling …
(Also his account is satire, right?)
Yes, he is the Congressman for California’s 54th district (it only has 52, but was probably still 53 when he started the satire account).
Wow, at least 13 years. I remember coming across him when reddit was young: https://www.prwatch.org/spin/2010/09/9423/washington-post-duped-fake-congressman
oh thank christ
Small head: He’s proving his point really well.
Big head: He’s proving his point really well.100% of people who have committed a murder have drunk DiHydrogen Monoxide within the last two weeks, do you feel safe giving this to your children?
It’s toxic and can lead to DEATH if inhaled! Big if true!
But 25% of all American students also scored in the top quartile on standardized tests, so it cancels out!
Plus, it’s amazing that every student at least got placed on the graph. Missing that would be shameful.
Just another example of those damn participation trophies.
I can’t tell if you are joking. You must be, but it reads too sincerely.
You could even call it a New Sincerity.
I’ve been told I have deadpan delivery sometimes. I guess it translates to my comments too.
I’m not sure if this is a good thing. But yes, I’m keeping with the tone set by the comment above me.
How astute. You’re really top of the bell curve.
Hey that’s a sly insult :D
I’m definitely gonna use that one later.
deleted by creator
But at least the healthcare system is quite good: most people have more legs than average
More eyes too
Source?
Logic. Most people have two eyes. No people (AFAIK) have three or more. Some people have one or zero. That draws the average number down to less than two, making the normal number of eyes higher than the average number.
Wait, you’re the person who said more legs than average, unsourced. Mine’s from the same obvious facts
That’s whataboutism. You have a source or not, don’t make it about me.
They interviewed multiple eye witnesses.
I’m pretty proud to report that I have an above-average number of penises (nearly double, in fact).
However, my wife has grown more balls than I’ve ever had.
Are memes just straight screenshots of Twitter now?
I mean I’ll be the first to admit agenda posting, but at least I be posting memes…
Agenda posting? What is this, PCM?
This is satire.
This is officially the second dumbest take on the value of a quarter.
I knew a person who thought quarter to six meant 5:35 because “how many cents in a quarter dumbass.”
Wait…what? I’m struggling to comprehend this level of nonsense.
Quarter=25 cents. 25 minutes before six=5:35. And also OP is making it up, because no one that stupid is also doing extra math.
No no, I’ve met them. I work with them. They mostly end up in HR
“You worked an extra 15 minutes today so you’ll get paid 8.15 hours”
I mean you’re not far of. If I clock out 7 minutes late, I get 0 extra hours, if I clock out 8 minutes late, I get paid for 15 minutes and a stern taking to about clocking out on time.
That’s a very particular flavor of dumb lol.
Smart enough to put two and two together, not smart enough to realize that may not apply to every situation.
Technically, if everyone gets the full mark, no one will be in the bottom quartile.
Also, everyone would be in the bottom quartile. The definitions fall apart when you collapse the probability function.
If ever a reliable method for measuring actual intelligence rather than IQ is invented I imagine we’ll be seeing a somewhat lumpier graph than that smooth mean distribution curve.
No, this is how a graph showing quartiles will always look because quartiles, by definition, always include a fixed percentage of the studied population under them.
In this case the lower quartile will always have 25% of the population under it, 50% under the second quartile, and 75% under the third quartile.
Quartiles break a population into 4 equal portions.
While that’s true, the actual empirical curve does not have to be smooth. Or gaussian.
I know what this graph is, I was talking about a graph that actually showed something useful. If you’ve got a couple of hours to learn something useful then you could do worse than to look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBc7qBS1Ujo
Spendrill is not misunderstanding the OP. He’s just saying that if intelligence could be measured by a better metric, then distribution of that metric among the population would not look as smooth as the one in the OP.
At the end of the day, reducing intelligence down to one single number is already kind of questionable. What does it mean for someone to be 1 point more intelligent than another person?
If you took a test as a child, it was probably WISC-V.
This assessment provides the following scores:
- A Composite Score that represents a child’s overall intellectual ability (FSIQ)
- Primary Index Scores that measure the following areas of cognitive functioning: Verbal Comprehension Index (VCI), Visual Spatial Index (VSI), Fluid Reasoning Index (FRI), Working Memory Index (WMI), and the Processing Speed Index (PSI).
- Ancillary Index Scores are also provided: The Quantitative Reasoning Index (QRI) ; Auditory Working Memory Index (AWMI); Nonverbal Index (NVI); General Ability Index (GAI); and the Cognitive Proficiency Index (CPI).
Which seems very reasonable to me. This was originally intended to be an aptitude test, not strictly to measure your intelligence.
It’s the composite score, and especially the heavy emphasis on it as some innate unchangeable thing, that’s the questionable part.
Absolutely, but it’s still useful. Allegedly Alfred Binet did not approve of the eventual applications of the test he designed.
This is supposed to quantify intelligence but how are these criteria quantified? Seems like the same fundamental issue
I don’t know, when I got tested it seemed like they were testing the right stuff.
I’m pretty sure it’s a well-made test that provides fairly accurate results. Even if what they claim to be measuring in each category isn’t reflected in the test, it is, at the very least measuring the abilities required to take the test and that exactly.
It seems pretty straightforward to see how good a kid is at solving a puzzle, right?
It’s also, there are several different axes that you could measure intelligence along, spatial intelligence and awareness, emotional intelligence and so on. Also intelligence is a sliding scale, there are definitely times of the day, week month and year when I am less able to solve problems and more likely to cause them and then you’re into the social aspects, it’s been demonstrated that people’s ability to think straight is affected by how precarious their existence is and so on.
Is there a c/woosh?
Is there a c/IGotTheJokeJustWantedToMakeAGeneralPointAboutTheArtificialityOfIntelligenceQuotients
I swear if all the snide little pricks come over from reddit too I am going to have to abandon Lemmy also.
You could have communicated much more clearly. It was not at all clear that you understood the post and wanted to have a specific side discussion. It read like you were taking the post at face value to discuss the failure of IQ testing. It especially even more like a misunderstanding because the post wasn’t even about IQ tests, but standardized tests. In fact, your top level post and this one I’m responding to both felt snide to me. First snide about the graph and IQ tests, then snide about the fact that people didn’t understand your unclear communication. You came off as one of those snide reddit users zooming past the post to make a point, especially with your aggressive defenses. Slow down. Consider your messaging more carefully. We are here to have conversation. Make sure you are too.
I was definitely critical of the graph and of IQ. It’s a flawed concept created by people who were at best blind to cultural differences and at worst outright racist. [I’m sorry if you found my messaging unclear]<— I’m being absolutely genuine here, I was trying to make a serious point and if you misunderstood it then perhaps I could have been clearer. In future with these kinds of posts I’ll label it as off topic at the beginning.
Lol. People read your comment and think you didn’t understand the original post. When in reality they are the ones who didn’t understand your comment.
I’m sure Lemmy wasn’t like this a month ago. What I was enjoying is that someone would make a post and then you could start a conversation that wasn’t strictly on topic just have an interesting talk about the general subject.
The worst thing about social networks is the people. Maybe we could just use ai to generate every response, fine tuned to the kind of conversation you specifically want. Yeah that’ll fix it.
The worst thing about social networks is some of the people. Generally, they’re fine. Same in real life.
It would almost certainly follow an approximate normal distribution just like the above graph. Why would it look different?
He couldn’t be more right. Absolutely appalling.
Big if true, bruh.
