Since people from war-torn nations often flee to Europe where they tend to get all kinds of help and support, I wonder what countries Europeans would/could flee to - and be welcomed by - if there were to be a war engulfing most of Europe?
Any thoughts?
The vast majority of people fleeing from war-torn countries today do not flee to Europe. They flee to safer areas within their own countries, then to neighboring countries, then to other culturally similar countries. The number of people who try to make it all the way to Europe and then succeed pales in comparison.
The narrative that there’s a huge migration wave from unstable third world countries to Europe is a lie perpetuated by the right wing.
They don’t! And that’s why I made no such statement!
I repeat what I stated in response to somebody else:
I am not interested in a political discussion nor in the overly-common mud-slinging that desperately attempts to label everyone either a hateful nazi or a moronic lefty. I simply wonder where Europeans would flee to, if there were a war that engulfs all of Europe.
Alas, since you seem to be more interested in other discussions: Saying people don’t flee from war to Europe seems highly deceitful in itself. I just looked at the statistics from Germany (which brought me to my question): By mid-2024, there were roughly 3.5 Million refugees in Germany. Over one million of them were from Ukraine. For the whole of the EU, there appear to be almost 7 million refugees from war-torn areas and a total of 13 million refugees in total (includes internally displaced people), and 1.7 million asylum applicants. Those appear to be official numbers and not right-wing talking points. I suppose in your mind, that means that people don’t flee to Europe?
https://www.unhcr.org/europe/europe-figures-glance-2023
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/zahl-gefluechtete-deutschland-100.html
I’m not sure how your numbers are supposed to counter his argument?
First, Ukrainians are Europeans, so this example falls in the category of refugees going to nearby and culturally similar countries.
Second, you don’t mention the number of refugees within Ukraine, so no comparison can be made and you can’t argue for or against whether only a faction comes to Europe. Please take the effort to share all the relevant nunbers instead of cherry picking.
How dare you bring logic in our conversation? You even attached sources of your information? That it, you done it, I’ll report you!