Just around 24 hours after Musk made his comments, more than 42,000 new users joined Bluesky, making it the biggest signup day yet for the currently invite-only platform that launched earlier this year.
Bluesky saw a total of 53,585 new signups by the end of Tuesday, September 19. The new users gained in that single day make up 5 percent of the platform’s entire user base of 1,125,499 total accounts.
The new user signups are tracked via the third-party website “Bluesky Stats.” Looking over Bluesky signup numbers on the tracker for the past month, it appears that the platform usually sees from 10,000 to 20,000 new signups per day. Bluesky has doubled its usual daily new user numbers already, with many more hours left in the day still to go.
It’s impossible to know whether Musk’s comments about charging users to post on X really played a role in this, but it almost certainly had some effect.
Great another social media platform from the same fart huffing dumb asses that sold Twitter… it’s like people don’t learn lessons.
Americans be like “I like fascism I just don’t like THIS fascism”
I learned today that you’d have to be confined in a small room with approximately a year’s worth of farts before you risk asphyxiation.
Not my farts, that’d only take about a month
TIL
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Cheer up, mastodon also gained 30000+ new users in the last two days
Edit: Source: https://mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount
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masto is fractured even further with different servers arguing in places (a bit like here tbh) over federation.
And? Servers are inter-operable.
Until your home instance defederates from another instance. Sure, you can always make another account, but your average user wants a lower friction experience.
I’m reasonably active in the fediverse, but I recognize that the more explaining it takes to the average user the less likely they’re going to want to join in.
The old old top gear cool wall tried to hit on this concept. You could have a very technically excellent car classified as uncool because if you had to explain why it was cool to a normie you had already lost them.
It will be hard for the fediverse to get over this hump, which is probably why you see so many Linux users here and so few say woodworkers or other (somewhat) more niche communities.
Most average people would never notice defederation unless you told them. It’s pretty frictionless and drama free.
The niche communities are always the last to come. It’s why they’re niche. That techie people are the first is nothing damming. It’s always been that way for every service.
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Honestly I think Mastodon needs a third party app that makes it feel more like Twitter, similar to how reddit apps are switching to lemmy. Unfortunately, I don’t know if there were any third party Twitter apps that had the name recognition of the reddit ones.
THere were a few but they got bought (eg. tweetdeck).
There are also 3rd party apps for mastodon that a lot of people like, and they try. But for many people, mimicking the parts of Twitter they value is difficult to do without proper backend support for supporting algorithms, and even then the way activitypub works it still makes it difficult to support for most developers.
Two of the key features are discovering new or related content, which is hard to do in mastodon as it needs to calculate similarity across all of the profiles and their content in order to make recommendations – or collect data like your cell contacts to help you connect with people you already know. Most people don’t want contact sharing, and indexing all of the recommended profiles, especially across federated servers is challenging.
The second is engagement based recommendations. Many social media users aren’t incredibly active. They want to open the app in specific moments to quickly catch up with everything since they last opened the app. To do this well, you need to know what they’ve engaged with and look back at content since they last logged on and rank it based on that. People may follow 1000 people, but really care about maybe 30-40 accounts the most. Friends, family, specific journalists or famous people. Mastodon just gives you like a sample of the last 50 or so items. If you follow anyone super active, you may just get a lot of noise in those updates.
Obviously, there are times when everyone wants a linear timeline, but it depends upon their daily use.
Literally. The android app is superb. It has come a long way with Material You theming, smoothness, and stuff. Compare that to the crap you would call twitter, X or whatever.
Mastodon is for mentally ill people :/ bsky ftw
It’s also controlled by another crypto shill, so it has that in common with Twitter too.
isn’t bluesky invite only?
Each current member usually get at least one invite to share biweekly. That’s how they have been growing it.
Google+ did the same thing when it rolled out, then they tried to force people to use it before they cancelled the project.
I’m still salty about that. Google+ was fantastic on release. Simple, clean, elegant, and fast. Then they steadily, systematically fucked it up. By the time it was cancelled, it had become unusable.
G+'s downfall was they kept it invite-only too long. Demand was there, people wanted in but Google was like, “Nah…”
By the time it was open-access, everyone had moved on or back to their old social media platforms. It could’ve been great, but Google, in typical Google fashion, got distracted by something shiny and killed it.
The sad thing is, if they’d thought even a tiny bit laterally and leveraged the fact that Google Reader was getting a lot of traction and a core of people were beginning to use its social functions, they could have backdoored themselves into being Digg/Reddit/Etc. and had the social media userbase to take on Facebook organically.
Instead, they fought the last war (Gmail vs Hotmail), intentionally eroded and then killed Reader, and with G+ they completely fucked up what was a cleaner interface (if not all that special) and a better technological experience, all while they were a brand that was at that time more trusted than their competitors.
Yep. Once they screwed up G+, I committed to never becoming dependent on any Google service beyond Drive and Gmail, and only those two because they’re completely untouchable - Google couldn’t break those without having a mass rebellion on its hands.
So, in the shape of a pyramid? Sounds like a good business model. I wonder if anyone has ever done that before? (yes, it’s a joke)
It says that in the first sentence
lol they didn’t even bother reading the lemmy description. 😂
Yes, that’s part of what’s surprising about the number.
Yes but I’m sure many recorded invites and didn’t bother. Musk musking TSFKAT ( the-site-formerly-known-as-twitter) was the needed motivation to accept it.
I didn’t bother and was gonna give it a walk around. Downloaded but can’t access without an invite.
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I would prefer not to use the letter in any form.
Fuck Ruskie Muskie
I’ve been trying to get an invite since June.
Apparently if you ask, you’re not good enough or some shit.
You’re not missing anything. I eventually got an invite, found that 40% of the content was furry and I deleted my account.
Invite only is a fascinating choice for a social network that requires network effect to succeed.
Gmail is the most famous/successful example but interesting to note that email is a federated network that can interoperate with every other email address too.
What about this bluesky network?
I wonder why people aren’t going for mastodon.
I’m on there, but I use Twitter and mastodon as a follower, I don’t post. So until most of the 40ish people I follow move I’m stuck with Twitter if I want to see their posts. And I do.
depending on how popular the user is on Twitter, you may be able to follow them on Mastodon via https://bird.makeup/. I use it to follow things like larger content creators, NHL teams, stuff like that.
Oh interesting. I was unaware.
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different features and scalability
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Congratulations of joining mastodon today. 😆
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Not only is it open, but you can check it out yourself and install right from source if you really want to get under the hood.
I’ve seen folks out there running a 1-person masto instance, just so they can partake in the fedi from their own fully sovereign platform. Bit extreme for me, but cool that it’s an option. Definitely not just another FB in other words
EDIT: Oh dang there’s a one-click app on DO even.
Have you at all attempted to look? It’s open source.
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What is why it is not being “downloaded”? It seems you don’t actually understand how it works. You realize we are talking on a federated network right now, yeah? You must be trolling.
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Since you appear to be talking about a Mastodon mobile app and not the Mastodon network a fair bit of negative reviews are about many of the mobile apps blocking access to Gab. Gab switched to a Mastodon back end back in 2019 or so and several of the apps started to blacklist using that instance at the app level as a consequence. Usually negative reviews about that will refer to “the largest Mastodon instance”, which Gab actually was by sheer numbers.
There was even an issue request to hardcode blacklisting Gab into the backend, though they were basically told no in no uncertain terms.
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Point it out and share it with everyone. That’s what FOSS is all about. I bet you won’t.
Of course they won’t. They’re shilling their own product which is a competitor to Mastodon.
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I was interested in it but at the end of the day Dorsey got Twitter into its initially mediocre state, and he’s endorsed RFK Jr. as well as Musk’s purchase of Twitter. So should I really expect it to be any better? I’ll keep an eye on it but my expectations aren’t terribly high.
and he’s endorsed RFK Jr.
Gross. Yeah Dorsey sucks generally.
as well as Musk’s purchase of Twitter.
But I don’t hold this part against him. If some moron came along and offered to drastically overpay for my house, for example, I’d endorse the fuck out of that even if he’s a shitheel.
“I have never met Elon, and by all accounts he is terrible. However, I have seen the yacht that he paid for, and it is terrific.”
Did you not read the text messages between them? Jack was being a real fan boy
Of course he’s endorsed Musk purchasing Twitter, he made billions off it
I signed up just to see the hype, and it’s the same boring Twitter, with less commitment. People just grabbing namespace.
what the fuck is Bluesky
It’s Jack Dorsey’s “Twitter but federated this time”, except there is only 1 instance, run by Jack…. But don’t worry, “Trust me bro” it will totally be federated/open.
Maybe it will be but until it is it’s just as bad as Twitter.
So is it going to be part of the fediverse at one point or will it be a separate federation?
God… I’ve been on the “fediverse” for months and
A: have no clue what it is
And
B: am not even entirely sure I’m on it anymore
Love Lemmy but lol this is getting confusing, is Mastodon on Lemmy or… just federated or… sheesh I need to search this
It doesn’t really matter. If you find value in using it, just keep using it.
That hasn’t been specified, which suggests they’re aiming for the latter.
Excuse me, signups on an INVITE ONLY platform?
Ot makes no sense,
I have few invites if anyone needs
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Dm me
Any chance you have any more? I’d love one
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Thank you!!
If you still have any, I’d appreciate one.
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Thank you 🙏
Welcome
I could make use of one of those invites. Thank you.
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Appreciate it, but you should have sent them by DM. It’s used by someone else now.
Same here :(
I d like one if you can spare one
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Would appreciate one :)
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I think other miscreants have already swiped it :(
Did you check all 5
Yes
Bad luck then
I firmly believe Elon is trying to run Twitter out of relevancy, or business entirely.
Lose $42 billion speed run challenge
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I didn’t know a coffee shop owner was so rich.
Who holds WR in EU%? You know, where endgame is getting wrecked by anti-monopoly agency.
I agree but I don’t understand why. What motivated him to sink 1/4th of his net worth into Twitter then kill it?
Knowing this nutter he’s probably doing it so people can’t talk about the crappy Tesla QC.
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The jet tracker
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Twitter is a huge place where leftists organize
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Probably wants to pull a reddit and push Trump
- I wouldn’t say that. It was filled with far-right and some people who like others to suffer and bring to suicide indie game developers.
It’s also used by fascists but there have been a lot of genuine leftist organizing going down deep in the cracks of that hellsite.
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The lawsuit he was destined to lose. Why do people here so often act like this was his masterplan all along? He fucked around and tried to back out, then Twitter sued him into buying the company. From what I can tell this is just Musk being Musk, reportedly he has surrounded himself with yes-men.
If that were true, the investors who paid him billions for the take over will want his head on a spike.
If you’d know who these investors are, you’d know running twitter to ground is their goal at this point as well
I suspect that might have been their intent but they didn’t tell Musk. They knew him doing his best would be enough to tank it.
Yeah, his ego won’t allow him to fail with grace.
Ok, but why though? How do you make money when the stock value is falling?
The theory is they’re not trying to make money, but is trying to make it harder to use Twitter for organizing protests or share ideas that threaten their status quo.
Interesting. So are you saying there’s government money behind this?
Biggest investor is Saudi Arabia.
Ok, so this is just a way to prevent another Arab spring from happening. Seems like a smart move until you realize that people have lots of alternative platforms too. It’s a bit more fragmented, so organizing a demonstration on mastodon probably won’t get that big that fast.
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The biggest funders are the Saudis, who hate Twitter for the way it allowed communication during The Arab Spring. 42 billion is nothing to them. They want Twitter to die, or be run the way the want it.
As Twitter is a big PR tool for Ukraine he’s again doing Putin a favour.
I think his Saudi funders are pleased.
Always good to see more people looking into platforms besides Twitter, plenty of great places out there
I wouldn’t hold my breath, 42k out of 528M is nothing
People are so desperate for anything RESEMBLING twitter, that they’ll sign up for a trash service like BS.
Mastodon undoubtedly has more brand recognition at this point.
Honestly, before reading this comment I never noticed that BlueSky shortens to BS, lol
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I’m so glad people are calling Bluesky out for the trash service it is. I just mastodon outlasts this crap and we get more people on there than bluesky
What’s wrong with Blue sky?
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Oh, but mastodon doesn’t have a good algorithm like Twitter it is hard to switch
The whole point of Mastodon not having an algorithm to show you things is to put the user in control of what kind of content they want to see.
Why do you need an algorithm to tell you what you are interested in? You go on Mastodon and subscribe to what you want to.
Mastodon has algorythms. Otherwise it couldn’t display the posts in the right orders, by example.
You’re right. That word has always been kind of dumbly used as a replacement for something like, “feed manipulation controlled by corporate interests”. Every computer application uses algorithms in some way.
Because it’s hard to find things, the normal person is used to an algorithm
CEO is a musk toesucker.
And of cource i misread that as “CEO is Mr. mark toesucker”
If you run “Mark Zuckerberg” through google translate a few dozen times I’m sure it’ll spit that out at some point
Switch to Mastodon. It’s a great alternative.
God I hope he gets gaslit into actually making Twitter a subscription. It would be so funny
I’m starting to suspect he only wanted Twitter to kill it…
It is weird how he’s just completely running it into the ground… I don’t really buy that though because he never actuslly wanted the company and only bought it because a court forced him to. Also I honestly don’t think he’d want to wash 44 big ones down the drain just to own the libs.
All I can think of is that he’s just… maybe kind of an idiot and has just gotten lucky so far lol? It’s the only thing that fits as far as I can see.
Some have suggested that the purchase was partly to prevent a second Arab spring. Saudi funding and increased cooperation make it a possibility but I’m not sold on any particular idea besides “avoid everything Elon touches.” Why anyone stayed on ragebait bot network: the website is beyond my understanding.
