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    The market will shrug it off like it did with the tariffs (which were also supposed to tank everything) because line must go up no matter what. Maybe if the market regained some semblance of rationality it would recognize how bad things are, but that’s not where we’re at, so it’s pointless looking at the market as some sort of measurement of anything to do with reality.

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        I think it’s a little too soon to say if it’s a market crash or just a correction. The markets have been getting hammered the past few weeks, though.

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          They’re coming off a nine month long bull run. P/e values remain obsene, especially across the MAG7. And the money just keeps flowing, with banks seemingly unable to see credit risk on some of the shakiest assets since the DotCom bubble.

          Whatever needs to happen to end this streak hasn’t happened yet.

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          They’re great to hold when you’re worried about interbank lending getting locked up by sanctions.

          Real lifesaver for Russia, too, since they’ve been gold heavy since the war started.

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    US went from “We don’t negotiate with terrorists.” to “We are the terrorists.” Sources: All recent happenings in the US. Killing of the innocent, invasion to the foreign countries, market manipulation, hostile takeover or the main govt. branches etc…

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      You realize that was 12 years ago and the only people who still bring this up are liberals acting like it’s some great “gotcha!”, right? Shut the fuck up with the tan suit already. You sound as demented as him. Maybe focus on today. If your best defense against facism is some half-witted comment about 12 years ago, weren’t not gonna win this.

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        I legit think Trump is obsessed over the Nobel Peace prize because it was awarded to Obama. And I think it all goes back Obama joking about Trump at the White House correspondents dinner in 2011.

        It created some epic revenge arch that started with peddling Obama is a Kenyan national, and continues today. Shit in 2016 I don’t think Trump even really wanted to be president, and now he can’t get off the rails.

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          Big. Fucking. Deal.

          Slinging half assed insults isn’t gonna solve this and people’s obsession with constantly bringing it up like it offends him or his base is retarded.

          Yes it was stupid then and it’s just as stupid now when the other side keeps bringing it up.

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    Firstly, Greenland is part of Denmark, not Norway. Not the same thing.

    Secondly, I might be wrong but I don’t think the Norwegian government gives the Nobel prizes, an organization based in Norway does

    Thirdly, how deranged does someone have to be to threaten war over not getting a peace prize?

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      Secondly, I might be wrong but I don’t think the Norwegian government gives the Nobel prizes, an organization based in Norway does

      Correct. The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by The Norwegian Nobel Commitee, not the government. The committee consists of members appointed by the Norwegian Parliament – again, not the goverment. The commitee thus a private body, and the government has absolutely no say in their selection of the recipient.

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        Just shows how fundamentally ingrained it is in Trump’s head that he thinks he’s King and can dictate what everyone in his country does. He does not understand that any government doesn’t have that power.

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      He’s terrorizing Minnesota because the population votes for the opposing party. The madness with the Orange knows no bounds.

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        also because walz stepped down from running for the gov, because hes too non-confrontational. the right wingers are trying to spin up the propaganda so that an R can take MINNESOTA, kristi noem even had to say it burned down a couple times to keep the lie going on CBS.

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          They think this will lead to MAGA taking overinmesota, they are delusional. This will only make it worse for them.

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        He’s terrorizing Minnesota because the population votes

        Don’t worry, not for long! 🤪

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      gestures broadly this deranged. It’s all excuses. Dictators don’t need reasons they just act.

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    Worlds biggest fucking baby. They seriously voted in a fucking baby as president of the USA…

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    “Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize … I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America,” Trump’s message to Jonas Gahr Støre said. “The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland.”

    The Norwegian government has no control over how the Nobel Committee awards its prizes. Greenland is a territory of Denmark, not Norway.

    I don’t understand how this is “normal.”

    Like, I can bring this up to Trump-liking family, genuinely smart people, and it’s just brushed off.

    If Biden so much as stuttered in a speech, it was like a national emergency. What do you think would happen if he started mixing up EU countries and impulse texting them over “your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize?”

    Congress would impeach any other president on the spot. Democrat or Republican.

    Even accounting for Fox News, I just don’t understand how this gets a pass.

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      Cognitive bias affects all classes and education levels. But in my experience conservatives are the most flagrant, “the only moral abortion is my abortion” for example.

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      Are you familiar with the concept of limerence? It’s an intense infatuation with a person typically rooted in romantic interest. It occurs when you don’t really know a person, and you build an idealized version of them in your mind that likely doesn’t reflect reality. You attribute all sorts of positive traits to them and overlook all their negative traits. You effectively view them through “rose colored glasses”. This is how Trump’s followers look at him. They have this delusional view of him as this strong man here to save them from the mean old leftists. His efforts to seize and wield extraordinary power is viewed favorably, because he is their savior. Everything he does is either awesome or it’s just minimized and ignored. When he does horrible things, it’s just haters looking to knock him down, because he’s just giving the U.S. the tough medicine it needs. There is no way to reason with them, because you can’t reason someone out of something they didn’t reason themselves into in the first place. It’s an emotional thing, in the same way you might be smitten by an attractive woman and build her up in your mind into something that she isn’t. The only way to break the spell is when your fantasy runs into cold, hard reality. In this case, the cold, hard reality will be financial collapse of the U.S. (or worse).

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        You effectively view them through “rose colored glasses”

        They must be seeing him through orange colored glasses, effectively normalizing his appearance. . . But who knows what they’re smoking to ignore all their other senses!

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        People do this with fictional characters too. TVtropes calls it “Draco in Leather Pants”. People find an evil character attractive and so paint a picture of that character in their head that is nothing like they are in canon, exaggerating any good thing about them (or just making up good things about them) and ignoring or justifying anything bad about them

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        Script theory does a good job of showing how being able to follow certain social scripts does not suggest that the person does not hold a strong delusion that is unchallenged by those scripts.

        You can believe you can fly while not needing to contest that until it becomes an active choice you are forced to make. Some might back off from the belief when put to contest, because they are okay believing whatever feels good despite the dissonance they feel. Some might take action believing they can fly. Both exist comfortable in a shared social group of online “flying truthers.”

        People are easily deluded, and usually those delusions cover vaguely bounded and varying social groups, where a single person and an LLM can confirm the person into a noticeable delusion that hasn’t been socialized into the surrounding social scripts.

        This is also how you can get a genuinely smart person in math or something, which also holds confident deluded beliefs on some other context.

        On the whole: Eco-niche specialization, misplaced confidence, and social affirmation, generally can lead to this.

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      It’s because nothing Trump is doing scares them as much as:

      • Whites becoming a minority
      • Gender not being a fundamental way of organizing society
      • Random made up things they heard online that they believe to be true

      Trump doesn’t look so bad if you believe every US city was burned to the ground 6 years ago and had to be rebuilt using taxes from rural america which were collected by black & latino paramilitary troops controlled by the jews.

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        •Whites becoming a minority
        •Gender not being a fundamental way of organizing society

        These two points can be simplified down to “their hierarchies being disrupted.”
        People who have gotten so used to living with privilege that equality feels like oppression. They believe that to give others a bigger piece of the “treat people well” pie their piece needs to become smaller. They don’t understand that you can just make the pie bigger.

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    How does Karoline Leavitt spin this one to reporters? Another joke? Or just attack the journalist for asking?

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      I’m waiting for the day the whole administration tries to flip the script and claim this was all a giant social experiment. They crashed the economy, invaded US cities with a militia, started killing civilians, and dragged us into a foreign war over oil and then kicked off WWIII bc they knew it was the only way they could get all the sheeple to wake up.

      Like the current grift will just shift into a new grift where they pretend an angry mob of millions forming outside of the White House was actually their plan the entire time.

      “This was a test and you passed. Congratulations, give yourself a round of applause.”

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      Even if it were a joke, some jokes aren’t appropriate for the leader of a country to make. Multiple countries are taking him seriously and gearing up to defend Greenland. If I called someone’s house repeatedly and threatened to rob them, I’d probably be arrested and the defence “it was just a joke” would do little good.

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      after she gets her lip injections, and botox, letting it rip after consuming mexican restuarant food. of course she wears lying CROSS.

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    Waitaminit… a private Norwegian organization decides the manbaby isn’t getting an award, so he decides to take it out on Denmark?

    That’s straight up a pussy bitch move.

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      He’s too stupid to know the difference, plus he’s probably being bribed by some other pedophile racist billionarie in exchange for mineral rights or whatever.

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      Not even Denmark. Greenland, an autonomous country under Denmark’s administration(?).

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      The entire MAGA movement is driven by tiny, limp dick energy. It’s obvious these guys are compensating for lots of stuff, like lack of brain cells, but I’d bet anything that the average MAGA, and especially the MAGA leadership, are all sporting weenies that are far smaller than average.