cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/58978579
The online survey of 1,002 U.S. adults was conducted between Jan. 13 and 15. It found that 66 per cent of respondents want Canada to remain an independent nation
70% of Americans believe in angels. If you take the extreme end of that statistic you can just insert any crazy belief.
What percentage want another country to take over the US? If that question isn’t in that survey then its meaningless. Which it probably still would be no matter what. Most surveys target certain demographics to get the answers they want.
17% of Americans have read ‘Night Probe’ by Clive Cussler and think it’s a history book.
Probably 15% of those don’t know what annex means
Considering you can get 30% of americans to agree with anything on a poll, 17% must be like the amount of americans who think like “autonomous” means “automobile maker” or something and are too embarrassed/overconfident to ask for clarification.
Fucking hell that’s too high. They’ve been nothing but an excellent neighbor to us and they want to remain sovereign. This is just a demand for a forever war against old friends that will also result in us actually being attacked on our own soil for once. Because yeah, they know where our bases are and if we’re invading they’re going to use their modern military.
In fact, I’m angry at the term annex here. Annex is a word that feels neutral and like it could be bloodless, the word in question is invade or go to war with. Going to war with Canada would result in attacks on our cities. Civilians will die on both sides for no fucking gain. Billions of dollars in infrastructure will be wiped out for good reason and that’s all assuming that nato stays neutral, which they’ve made pretty clear isn’t the case. We need to start talking here with the people in our lives about how that’s what “annexing” canada looks like, and make damn sure that we get into the 90+% range vociferously opposing this bullshit.
I think even many Canadians don’t think it through. If we survive the initial invasion we will be deprived of education, healthcare, freedom of movement, democratic representation, autonomy, resources like water and electricity, employment and money. Some of us would be pulled out of our homes and disappeared or killed, particularly if we’re vocal critics of the USA. We would be closely watched and guarded and met with violence at the first sign of resistance or noncompliance. Our children would be indoctrinated in school. Our scientific institutions would be shut down. Our friends and family, particularly anyone who is not a straight white cis Christian conservative, will be in constant danger. It won’t be just an administrative handover that allows Canadians to get on with their lives. It will be brutal and punitive.
Which is why violent, disruptive resistance would be the norm. I’m talking making the Taliban look like a relief organization. I would happily make sure Americans fear for their lives every second of every day if it ever came to that and I know Im not alone in that. If I had to die as a result, as long as I take out 10 Americans before I do I’d die happy.
In other words, terrorize the fuckers until they go home.
We would, but what other choice would we have if if happened? Just kowtow to the US? Fuck that. Would it suck and make everything horrible? Yes, but not like Ukraine had an option when their war started.
We need to figure out how a smallish, largely unarmed population could make a large, heavily armed force wish they had never met us.
25 pc of the president’s base is evangelical. They want chaos, war, misery, to hasten the second coming (of angry vengeful jesus, none of that weak ass new testament bullshit,) where the faithful, them, get brought to heaven and the world drowns in lakes of blood and fire.
These people believe in nothing to advance the common good, the common good to them is pain, strife, and the end of the world.
Naturally they see the president and his puppet master in Israel making US and UK swells dance waving around tapes of them fucking children with epstein as a gift from god to bring on this rapture.
17% of Americans can throw themselves directly into a volcano.
pretty sure they’d need assistance on that, so, eh. you know.
You think one of those rascal scooters could make it to the summit?
nope. they’re gonna have to hire sherpas or something.
I bet I could find some folks willing to do it for free out of the goodness of their hearts.
“I don’t want muh tax dollars going to foreigners!”
I have a feeling many of them would miss.
After they’ve fucked themselves with a cactus
I want Canada, Denmark, or almost anyone else to annex the US west coast.
Maybe Canada could trade Alberta with the US in exchange for Oregon, Washington, and California.
This is questionable. Partially because the knuckle draggers who support trump largely wouldn’t know what the word annex means.
That’s why it’s not that magical 33%
Canadian here: FUCK. OFF.
American here - I wish we would
17% of Americans are abjectly stupid
Nah, they are evangelical. Even worse.
It’s at least 2x-3x that statistic. They are just even more ignorant or uninvolved in life outside of their small town.
So many US sources say shit like “only 17 %” as if this is a low value. It’s infuriating
I think the wording is meant to contrast how few Americans actually want it, vs, how much Trump wants it, who, as president, should, in theory as an elected figure, represent the majority opinion of the people. So, they are calling attention to the fact that it’s a low number, but for a different reason than your reading.
Obviously that is part of what they are saying, they just haven’t taken the care to exclude the “we are proud of the US since only 1/5 of us want to take Canada”. In a situation like this, you’d expect more care. And this isn’t a slight one off, it’s very common type of comment for commentary about the US, particularly domestically.
All they had to do was swap these paragraphs and it would help the implication:
Only 17 per cent of respondents said they want Canada to be a U.S. territory or state. That number climbed slightly to 23 per cent of respondents who want Greenland to become a U.S. territory or state.
U.S. President Donald Trump has been aggressively pursuing an expansionist agenda during his second term.
Far better to be explicit and state what you mean:“17 per cent of respondents said they want Canada to be a U.S. territory or state, indicating low domestic popularity”. But even then, for an international audience that is a horrifyingly large amount of domestic support that if aligned with similar issues tends to include roughly 1/10 Democrats so any sort of “its just MAGA” is lies to help feel less bad about countryman.
Seriously, what are you doing defending this sort of indifference to clarity, and collateral insults, when discussing a head of state and country this egregious?
And saying 66% don’t want the USA to annex Canada as if that’s in any way a reassuringly low number.
I was always kinda hopin’ Canada would annex us instead.
I’ve traveled to a few states and I think some of them would make fantastic provinces. Some of them have people very kind and friendly, and I like to think that fits well with Canadians.
Set it up! If you can get orange daddy to sign off on it (convince him it’ll sway the vote to be more red with fewer blue in there) we’ll be set!
You like bacon? You ever had sortilege?
bacon and sortilege both sound nice.
The top half of VT is basically Canada, heck a lot of them speak french already.
Is it bad if I want Canada to annex Minnesota? (where I happen to live.)
Yeah, I don’t entirely object to the reverse (as long as California is adopted into the family), but making Canada part of the US? No thank you. Fucking crab bucket mentality; can’t let other people have nice things.
Let’s respect the borders! Northern States for Canada, Southwest States for Mexico 😁
🤔🤔🤔 And Florida for Cuba 😁😁😁
What has Cuba done to deserve that kind of punishment?
I said Florida, not Floridians😁😁😁
I’m sure they can work something out.
As a Canadian I like visiting Minnesota and it feels like a real shame not to be able to visit there right now because of all the fascism. I think many Minnesotans would fit in quite well among Canadians. But there are also some horrible reactionary elements there. Perhaps persuade them to move to Texas first.
Let’s just tell them all that Canadian electricity will make their kids gay.
Or maybe we blame all that fresh air you send our way.
Fugly Grey Duck
