Invoking Vaclav Havel, he said it was time to stop pretending that what the western powers called a rules-based order was not a self-serving sham.
“Great powers can afford, for now, to go it alone. They have the market size, the military capacity and the leverage to dictate terms. Middle powers do not. But when we only negotiate bilaterally with a hegemon, we negotiate from weakness. We accept what’s offered. We compete with each other to be the most accommodating,” he said
“Being a happy vassal is one thing, being a miserable slave is something else,” he said.
“If you back down now, you’re going to lose your dignity, and that’s probably the most precious thing you can have in a democracy, it’s your dignity.”
The speech is here. It’s really good. It is perhaps the most incisive and important speech I’ve ever seen from a modern politician, and I think it may be considered something of a turning point in the future.
Indeed a great speech… hopefully it’s not just words
Here is a version with better quality audio
Carney has always spoken like this when dealing with chaotic situations. He did when he led the Bank of Canada during the '08 financial crisis and again during Brexit when he led the Bank of England.
He doesn’t lie or use platitudes when speaking on important issues … which is why Canadians are hopeful we can survive the current maelstrom.
I watched the speech. It’s one of the most profound, intelligent speeches I’ve ever heard a politician give.
Agreed, we should always expect such coherence and conciseness from our leaders. Up your game Starmer!
Nah here in the US we went a different way and it’s working out great!
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I’m glad you’re enjoying it 😁
I’d like to meet the person who wrote it.
Carney himself wrote it. He’s attended Davos 30+ times so is quite comfortable speaking to the rich rabble.
I guarantee you Carney was heavily involved in writing it. Nobody writes that speech alone, but he isn’t the kind of guy to leave it to others.
There were mentions that he wrote his own speech from others. From what I understand it’s probably true since that would be his regular type of conference as a head banker previously. I’ll be honest haven’t listened to it or know a lot about Carney but this is what I’ve gleened in comments about his speech. Guess I knew about his banker credentials before and he helped us through the 08 crisis which Canada went through decently. Though I had no idea who he was until the leader of the liberal party
From everything I’ve read about his speech, which I will listen to at some point, makes me feel better with him in charge if we aren’t going to be more progressive.
Isn’t this what the EU worked out in the 80s. A bunch of small countries have a bunch of small voices. Together they’re a world force.
Trade unions worked in out before them.
I hate that we have nukes, our government literally fired all the reasonable people and put in corrupt retards incharge. Remember when Trump asked about nuking the hurricane? There’s no asking next time he remembers about nukes, all these retarded loyalist will just yes man us to world end.
“Being a happy vassal is one thing, being a miserable slave is something else,” he said.
If this doesn’t sum up modern resignation I don’t know what does. Capitalism sure does create a bunch of cucks the wealthy get to manipulate. But hey, if you put your foot down you can be a happy vassal. WTF.
Welcome back Non-Aligned Movement
It would be great if the middle powers could form some kind of “common” “wealth” but seems outlandish at the moment
A kind of Third World, independent of the dueling hegemony, as it were?
This would be rousing to me if Carney weren’t an international banker who’s a-okay with runaway capitalism taking over his country in the same way it’s decimated the US.
Yeah Canada and the US are really the same. Sure buddy. Steaming hot pile of take right there.
You’re right.
I should give the international banker who is currently doing his best to run his country into the ground more credit because he stepped up to the podium and said nice things.
I’m sure you’ll forgive me, but I rather think that given what he has accomplished in his first year, his overall skillset and deep knowledge in relevant fields, and his preeminent experience at the highest levels of economic and strategic discourse, he is much more trustworthy on the topics of trade and economic diversification, defense and sovereignty and affordability - and far better suited to protect and progress our country away from US dependence - than you are, random internet stranger who has none of the equivalent skills, experience or access to critical information from expert advisors.
But that’s just me. I prefer to pragmatically consider my options with some humility and respect for expertise, rather than pooling together all the insight of a high school bong session.
Imagine someone throwing their trust at a capitalist unironically. Nevermind, you don’t have to because murderaxeman is here!
Who do you put your trust in when it comes to making economic and political decisions in the face of a generational existential threat to our sovereignty, as well as a massive, rapid and necessary restructuring of our economy?
To keep the status quo of ever widening income gaps and growing fascism a banker of course.
Revolution requires people not invested in keeping a system that serves wealthy and their favorite proxy, the corporation, exclusively.
I wish I could upload my fart in response.
The Canadian banking system is different, by design, which left Canada relatively unscathed during the financial meltdown. Guess who Canada’s central banker was during all that? Mark Carney.
He fucked the UK up pretty well when he was at the Bank of England
No, he mitigated the damage you did to yourselves.
Nope, asleep at the wheel, rates way too low for way too long, and what damage? 0.29% of UK companies stopped exporting to the EU. Big fucking deal.
Also is either clueless about statistics or just a fucking liar
https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/11/brexit-damage-uk-economy-mark-carney
Its funny, when third world countries are slave states, thats just how the world works. When “white” countries taste the same, suddenly that becomes world news.
If this was not a “white” country, the leader would have been deposed by now.
…what were the first and second paths?
First path is align with great power #1.
Second path is align with great power #2.
Third path is non alignment / continuing to pursue multilateralism amongst middle powers.
He wisely never refers to the US or China directly in the speech.
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