• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    The home country of many (if not most) of their victims is the USA.

    This is demonstrably false. Yes, the US citizens killed or violated by ICE are heavily reported, but ICE mostly targets its actual targets - immigrants.

    It would not be cruel and unusual punishment. Here are the countries the US currently has an extradition treaty with (in blue), image from Wikipedia:

    If you’re wanted for a serious crime in any nation in Latin America, you will be extradited. If you go down to Peru, rape or murder someone, and manage to get back to the states before being caught? If the Peruvian government requests it, the US government will happily put your ass on a plane and send you down to Lima to face the Peruvian justice system. You probably won’t be extradited for shoplifting. But for serious crimes, absolutely.

    I’m not talking about deporting ICE agents to failed or war-torn states with no functioning justice systems. I’m talking about the kinds of countries that we regularly extradite people to. And this would be no different. It could all be done under existing law. Unlike your plan of “just put the pigs down.”

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      This is demonstrably false. Yes, the US citizens killed or violated by ICE are heavily reported, but ICE mostly targets its actual targets - immigrants.

      [Citation needed]

      Also, regime sources don’t count as a valid citation

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        What’s with your white savior complex? You really think the harm done to the handful of US citizens arrested or brutalized at protests outweighs the harm done to tens of thousands of immigrants? How many immigrants are dying in ICE dungeons or once they’re cast onto the streets of countries they’ve never even been to?

        How self centered do you have to be to think that cases like Rene Good represent the typical ICE victim. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. “The majority of ICE’s victims are immigrants” is not a statement that needs defending. It was created to brutalize immigrants, and that’s mostly what it’s doing.

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          I quoted targets, not victims, galaxy brain.

          I don’t think ice is doing anything other than mass targeting minorities, they don’t care about citizen vs noncitizens. And to the larger point, I don’t care if the people targeted are citizens or not, I care that people are being targeted AT ALL, so you can fuck entirely off with your dumb bullshit.

          Making it about citizen vs noncitizen is willingly giving into their narrative, and I’ll gladly take heat from idiots to break that.