I know you’re not impressed that I use Ubuntu but it’s not Windows, and I can’t be bothered to learn a damn thing about how to operate a system.
If Ubuntu works for you then keep rocking it
I used to use ubuntu but stopped bc i couldnt really game without dual booting to windows anyway.
Would you recommend ubuntu now? I know linux gaming is in a much better place, it just wasnt user friendly as an OS back in 2010
There’s no reason to choose Ubuntu over Debian these days, and plenty of reasons to use Debian over Ubuntu.
For context, Ubuntu is based on Debian, so most of the stuff under the hood is the same, but Ubuntu keeps forcing background decisions about things that are not always in the user’s best interests.
As for user interface, if you’re used to Ubuntu with Gnome, try Debian with Gnome. If Ubuntu with KDE, try Debian with KDE. That way you get a familiar desktop environment and a sensible base OS.Could you translate this to stupid please
I’m no expert, but here’s my working knowledge: If Debian is the engine/frame of the car, KDE and Gnome are different versions of the body/interior. KDE looks more like windows, Gnome looks more like macos or andriod maybe? Standard Ubuntu does aftermarket mods to Debian with Gnome.
That’s pretty good.
I’m gonna piggyback your analogy:Ubuntu is like an aftermarket car company that put in their own engine. They’ve started putting locks onto things, and when you ask them to install certain options, they say “yes, here you go” but secretly put in a worse version of that thing that only they can fix.
Then you take it to a shop and say “please fix this part, it’s one of these” and they say “that’s clearly not what’s in here, you’re on your own”.KDE and Gnome are like different consoles and steering wheel, if you could bring those with you into your next car. If you’re used to where the buttons and knobs are, you have the option to bring the whole thing over into a different car.
So if im most used to windows i should try debian with the kde stuff? Whats wine in this metaphor? Is that the same thing as kde?
Not sure this metaphor can be stretched enough to shoehorn wine into it.
Wine is just an application and it’ll work in any desktop environment (KDE, Gnome, etc), and it allows you to run Windows applications. Think of it as an application that lets your system pretend it’s actually Windows
(and for the pedantic neckbeards: yes I know this sounds like I’m calling wine an emulator, which it isn’t)
I’d say Debian with KDE would perfectly fit your use case and level of experience.
I gamed on it when Proton magically made it so games I bought on Steam worked. Otherwise I just gamed on an Xbox before that. I only recently switched to popos, (still gaming on it). I started on Slackware 3.4 and switched to Ubuntu in 2006-2007. I think as long as you aren’t on the LTS version, you should be good. In any case, it’s not a permanent decision and seems like every distro is crazy fast at installing these days. Worth a go whatever you try or where ever you land.
I’m on Kubuntu and loving it. The most I’ve had to go for a game on steam is change a compatibility tool (literally right click and click a checkbox and dropdown). Final Fantasy XIV (MMO) was mostly straightforward, but I had very specific mods and 3rd party tools I wanted, but they all work still after going down a mostly straightforward rabbit hole. Not a lot of weirdness there, just learning how to mod on Linux.
Lubuntu brother reppin’
My poor 2011 laptop is begging for the sweet release of death, but not before Linux keeps performing CPR on it.
See? That’s that I’m talking about. Good ol’ red-blooded Linux user.
That’s Linux and I say it counts :3
If Ubuntu works for you then that’s good. Don’t listen to the gatekeeping weenies who shit on people for not using arch or whatever. Most of them haven’t built their os from source and are just roleplaying having a unix beard.
Shoots you and rolls you into the pit of bodies.
insanely based
You’re not meant to operate the system. That’s what the operating system is for, silly
My university had the head of cyber security for a bank over to talk about pen testing, and one of the questions he got was “What Linux distro do you use at home.” He said Ubuntu, because he wants a system that’s stable and has support. If it works, it works.
Add a 3rd Dimensions and you will find BSD chads laughing at us from their jail’s
They should laugh. When I switched from FreeBSD to Linux felt it like such a downgrade.
Im curious what you felt was a downgreade. I think its much better designed but I feel it lacks so many more features vs modern Linux
I think it was the general lack of consistency. Everything felt a bit messy. This was almost 20 years ago and back then the BSDs had some features that were missing in Linux.
ah yeah that makes sense
change it just works to “m’lady”
This is the most accurate chart I have seen so far; I can relate to all of them except NixOS, because I have tested it only briefly in a container.
I first settled on Ubuntu and than moved from that along the chart and I am know in the Debian phase for my main distro after ~10 years with Gentoo.
For others I recommend Fedora or Debian depending on their needs and skill. Arch has no place for me anymore. I can live with Ubuntu on servers, if someone else had it already installed, but I would never use it on a desktop. But Debian is a default on servers/VMs for me, too. And: I can see, why people choose rocky on servers. I am partly responsible for some rocky servers and they seem to behave nicely.
Dad energy. Debian + XFCE. Get off my lawn.
I’ve been considering this actually.
On my main pc, which I mostly use for gaming, I’m running CachyOS, which was great when I actually had time to play games, but I’ve got a kid now and just got promoted to manager so I don’t really have a lot of time these days. I have a second pc which is technically a laptop but the battery is completely gone (and it’s also somewhat old now) that I’ve been planning on using more for office-y stuff. I’ve currently got it running Mint but I’m heavily considering hopping to Debian.
boot
open librewolf
open neovim
code my silly lil’ Dreamcast stuff
close neovim
play quake arena
shutdown
What do you code for the Dreamcast?
I’m doing a small racing game inspired by Aerogauge(N64)
ATM its a proof-of-concept esque… demo… ish… thing, for the DreamDisc '25 jam But after the jam, do want to continue developing it and make it a full game
I’m a Mint user, because I don’t want to use Windows 11, and I realized that about 95% of what I was doing on Win10 was FOSS. The only thing I miss is Notepad++.
You could try Notepadqq, which is similar and runs natively on Linux
Edit: just learned this isn’t actively maintained anymore :/
Honestly, I think gedit might be the best play.
True, or Kate, definitely solid
I’m using Mint too, and have tried installing Notepadqq and Kate. Notepadqq just crashes immediately even with the fixes I found online.
Kate is really good, just be aware that the version in the Mint repo doesn’t save the session automatically. It can save it, but only manually, and only for saved files. It doesn’t recover files that haven’t been saved yet like Notepad++ does.
That’s good to know, ty for the info. I’m a nvim guy so these reccs are from limited experience, i appreciate your firsthand knowledge
No worries 🙂
You should be able to use Notepad++ with Wine.
The only way I interact with Wine is through Bottles, honestly. It just doesn’t seem worth the trouble to go through all that for a text editor.
Totally fair. I generally try to avoid it when I can. And it’s pretty rare that I can’t find a native Linux alternative that works for me.
I have it running with Wine on LMDE6. Only thing that doesn’t render properly are the individual document minimise/maximise/close buttons.
It works, but it’s a lot slower and clunkier. And looks worse. Probably could improve with some tweaking, but I don’t use its special features and addons that much, and gedit works quite well for me.
I’m surprised it has that much impact. I try to avoid wine when I can, but when I have used it I haven’t generally noticed it slowing anything down.
I’m a nightmare for any IT department and software developer. I know enough to do damage, but don’t have the patience and knowledge to wield this power. I go around editing shit in random config files in order to “temporarily fix” an issue and then forget that I ever did it, slowly turning and system I touch into a ticking time bomb. This also combined with my unique ability to seemingly break any piece of software by merely interacting with it, especially on Linux, before I even had the chance to install anything. I’ve installed and used Linux on countless devices and haven’t ever had a smooth ride, yet still I’m completely daily driving Linux at this point.
I use Arch by the way :3 (and Fedora, and Ubuntu, and Raspbian, and God knows what else)
Oh yeah, the classic “I can’t wait for DNS changes, let me temporarily add the address and IP to the hosts file, it’s faster”.
Would I be immediately shot if the answer is FreeBSD?
Never! BSD bros are fellow comrades in arms against the corpos.
BSDs get too little love imho. They have more potential of becoming complete, usable and safe OSs than most Linux distros. Wish they would be discovered/talked about as much as Linux this past year.
Some dev at my company uses BSD and its like insane Aura
Nope, BSD is perfectly respectable
It being libre is what matters
Debian
Enough said.
Debian on my production servers, Arch Linux as my daily driver, Linux Mint on the devices I manage for normies.
Fedora on my servers, fedora as my daily driver, fedora on the devices I manage for normies.
fedora for when I want to hit print and see my networked printer automatically
Debian is my daily driver and for regular people I help. Comes with a service card saying “it will work and you will like it”.
I help for free. If someone does not like it, they can pay to have what they want done. But they don’t get to ask for help again.
Debian is solid as fuck, perfect for work computers, but I like tinkering with bleeding edge software on the AUR in my free time.
When a huge batch of laptops at my workplace that couldn’t support Windows 11 stopped receiving updates, I switched them to Mint for a drop-in-replacement that wouldn’t scare them too much. Now that they’re used to it Debian is probably the next step.
same
whats’s a distro? :3 My UI looks like Windows 95 and i have cute cats in my terminal :3 i can text my friends, play games, surf the internet and do arts :3 what else does a girl need? :)
This is as it should be
I actually want this as a distro
It’s a bucket list item to someday have a pull request merged into a branch of the Linux kernel.
I was once the first to report a bug in the kernel. I’m still pretty proud of it.
You know, the kind that insists on using Arch, despite being slightly (or more) below the skill level one should have before using it.
Android 16
Ohhh, Google shot in the lungs
Believe it or not, immediate execution :3
That’s right! It goes in the Linux hole.
I am certainly one of the Linux users that ever lived.
Fedora, simple, consistent, versatile, up to date.
Right?
Servers - Debian
Daily driver - Fedora
Um, the POSIX kind?
