cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/54271735
Hey guys,
Our dishwasher conked out (pump died, it was about 15 years old). I’ve already repaired this thing a couple times and it’s not worth it now.
Are any reputable brands around anymore? Aren’t they all owned by whirlpool?
I’ll pay the extra money if it means longevity. Budget probably $1200 or so.
Any recommendations?
Bosch, Meile
I’ve had both. I like Bosch a little better for features and layout, but I’ve regretted neither.
Both just work. Both are fairly cheap and easy to fix either by yourself or with a service.
I told my buddy that I suggested Bosch or Meile because I literally don’t have to think about them.
Both German companies. The Meile units are likely made in Germany while the Bosch ones in the US are made in the US.
Bosch Benchmark are made in Germany.
Only Bosch Benchmark series.
Have Meile, love it.
Haven’t had the best luck with Miele. Intake valve failed and the plastic baskets are disintegrating after 3 years. Washes great but the plastic doesn’t hold up to the temps.
That’s a shame to hear, I’ve not had any issues, but admittedly only ever use the hot cycle once a month or so for a deep clean.
Dishwasher, like most appliances, are getting too smart.
Many Bosch recommendations here, but beware that they are not above locking specific dishwasher features behind an app.
I won’t connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud - Mar 24, 2025
My honest advice is to go with the absolute simplest one you can find. I have a cheapo “Edgestar” washer from China that works without a hitch. It has 4 buttons. It has no wifi. It has a 3x 7-segment displays for communicating everything.
Dishwashers have been around, and mostly unchanged, for something like 120 years. No amount of fancy silicone trays, wash modes, microcontrollers, wifi, alerts, error modes, etc… can convince me that modern companies have actually thought of anything new in this space.
This turned into a rant.
TLDR: a cheap one
Is there no bosch version without that bullshit? I will absolutely not connect any appliance to the internet. Nor do I want a screen.
I got a Bosch a few years ago that has no app connectivity. Probably 4 or 5 years old at this point.
I had a Bosch I loved for years. It had a feature where it would slightly open the door at the end of the cycle so everything could air dry. It also had a red light that it would shine on the ground because it was so quiet that you couldn’t tell it was running. When we moved out, it was still running like it was brand new after five years of use in multi family home where we ran it twice a day every day.
Our new house has a basic GE, and it’s fine, I guess. There are a lot of other things that are higher priority than replacing a working dishwasher, but once it goes I’m replacing it with a Bosch.
Edit: That Bosch also got the dishes cleaner than anything else ever has, even with the cheap detergent.
That is legit!
IMO Bosch is the only company in the world that makes dishwashers.
My parents have a Miele that works really well, but I’m not a fan of the racks and the way they designed the tines - nothing seems to load efficiently.
Bosch Bosch Bosch.
Another pleased Bosch owner here. The thing has been solid for about 3 years now since we had to replace an Asko that died.
I bought a Bosch 800 series 6 years ago and love it. Bosch is a bit different from American style dishwashers. It has a screen that needs to be cleaned at least once a week. Also the heatless drying is fantastic. Mine is old enough that it doesn’t have Wi-Fi with certain features locked behind a cloud based app, which I find appallingly idiotic.
Just saying: There is a HomeConnect Local Integration for HomeAssistant.
Other than that: Bosch/Siemens (same brand) is solid. My washing machine moved over 22.000km with me by now…over 15 years…and works like a charm.
We’ve had two Bosch dishwashers (we moved) and both were really solid.
We were going to get a Bosch when ours needed replacing but we saw a floor model Viking and my wife decided that was the one.
It fucking suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.
Viking is just a re-badge brand, they don’t make shit. Some of their (very expensive) fridges are just glorified Frigidaire models.
The only dishwasher made by a high end manufacturer is COVE. Which is owned by Wolf/ Sub Zero.
Wolf is the absolute best in regards to cooking. I own a DF304 and love it.
Sub Zero is good, but requires some maintenance to keep in tip top shape.
Cove… Sucks at this point in time. It cleans well, but there have been some reliability issues with the brand.
Source: I live about 4 miles from the Wolf headquarters in Wisconsin and personally know several people on their engineering staff.
You can get a replacement pump for ~$50 and install it yourself in like 15 minutes. I did that a few months ago with my dishwasher. I was blown away at how easy it was.
It’s probably worth it to do one more repair before you pitch it IMO.
As for brands, I’d avoid GE. That’s what I have, and it’s been enough trouble over the past 6 years that I was tempted to replace it last fall (but I’m still glad I powered through the repair – seriously, it was SO EASY!)
Yeah, this one parts are getting rare and I think a pump now is $300. Ive already fixed other things on it so im not sure its worth it. Plus it is a filter model so I have to clean it out all the time which is disgusting, and it doesnt dry hardly at all anymore which is annoying. And sometimes it just runs shitty and I jave to run it twice to get random weird grime off the dishes that it sprays out.
And if I have to remove it from its hole anyways, thats an ass ton of work, so im not putting it back in!
Fair enough. $300?! Yikes! For that amount you ought to be able to get a whole new dishwasher. Or maybe not, I’m not sure how much the tariffs have jacked up prices in that area.
Yeah too bad. Im looking to spend like 600 on a dishwasher that lasts ,I hope.
Everybody here are recommending Bosch and for good reason. I’m just going to drop in that both Bosch and Siemens are owned by the same parent company and are built in the same factories and are pretty much identical except some design and additional features.
I recommend their models with Zeolite. They are very quiet and efficient. I got one of them last year and I’m very happy with it.
I ended up going with a different dishwasher because I’d read that although the zeolite works really well, it makes any repairs a nightmare.
Go to your small local “sales and service” place and ask them. Not all of them are good, but many are friendly, and they know what they get called to repair.
Though last time I asked they told me keep repairing the old ones - new ones are too water savings and won’t work as well.
I plan to! Im basically gonna walk in and say i have money, give me one with no computer bullshit and a warranty!
To add to to info here, be sure to check Consumer Reports
Sure, if you want paid-for advertisements. Consumer Reports is hot garbage and nothing will convince me that isn’t because they get paid somewhere on the back side from big daddy corpos. They love to shill brands that make actual trash all the time.
America is the only country with a dishwasher. in Britain we use our nuts
Bahaha
oi u having a giggle is u?
I am curious, how many plates do people with dishwashers normally own? I own 4 and don’t really have space for a dishwasher anyway, but sticking 4 plates in it seems wasteful. Most other things I have are hand wash only.
I just went to my cabinets and counted. I have a set of 12 each of three sizes of plates: dinner, salad and saucer. Same for two sizes of bowls. Additionally I have some non-matching bowls and a couple of toddler plates. I only run my dishwasher when full, which is usually once a day but sometimes twice. Of course, it’s not just plates but also mugs, glasses and cookware.
Oh my. I have over 25 plates probably. Probably over 30 if you count small ones
My childhood ones, my so’s childhood ones, and their fiesta ware ones we dont use a lot.
Definitely have over 40 cups.
Is this not normal 😅
More normal than having only 4 plates
Why would I buy so many more plates than I need?
Because I would run out of dishes in a day.
Haven’t you heard of dish stacking? Its all the rage.
You have childhood plates?
Haha yes because when we moved out we got all the parents old plates (and silverware) never really have bought new dishes. The fiestaware was used too. Probably a lot of our dishes are over 25 years old
I’ve been satisfied with the LGs I’ve bought and used on two separate homes. Both are still good after 5 years.
