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    This is incredibly obvious but it’s stated this way because a more honest headline would be uninteresting. The last time there was a serious Republican primary was 2015.

    So they’re saying debate ratings are lower than the last time there wasn’t an obvious front runner. Yeah, no shit cnbc. Good job.

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      Yeah, the better question is - whose actually watching? Trump is obviously going to be the nominee unless he’s literally forced off the ballot, and if that happens it’s just going to be chaos because I guarentee he’s just going to continue running as a write in candidate

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    Watching a bunch of assholes “debate” (read: regurgitate canned talking points on cue) who are only going to lose the primary to a bigger asshole, who is even in the room, is kinda pointless. Especially when said bigger asshole already lost one general election and may well be on track to lose an other one., So, we could either watch losers who are losing to a loser; or, spend our time more productively. Like say, insulting said losers on the internet. Not a hard choice.

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        No need to get white into it, racist is sufficient. Trump has plenty of black and Hispanic supporters. I don’t know if they are all racists, but they are definitively assholes.

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        Yeah… he lost the general election, but only by a hair, and a LOT of work went into grabbing last minute votes.

        The most dangerous thing you can do is be complacent.

        We need to vote and we need to get others to vote.

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        Ya, while I was being flippant about it, I do agree that Trump has a very real chance of winning the General Election. I well remember the noise over polling in 2016 and Nate Silver’s epic rant (he was right) about how the data should be looked at.

        I’m curious to see how things shake out in the General Election this time around. And I wonder if Biden’s Campaign will lean into Trump’s criminal actions. In 2016, Trump’s campaign pushed the “lock her up!” narrative over Clinton’s email server. Now that we have clear evidence of Trump mishandling, hiding and attempting to hang onto clearly marked classified information (some of which is clearly SCI or NNPI), will we get choruses of “lock him up!”? At the same time, Trumpets seem to revel in Trump’s crimes and prosecution as almost a badge of honor and/or an underdog fighting “the man”. The irony of Trump pretty much being the definition of “the man” seems lost on his supporters. But hey, no one ever said politics has to make sense.

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        Demagogues always need to project an image of control, power and invincibility, reality be damned. I’d expect more of the same from them, and it’s why it’s important to keep pointing out their failures. By proving how weak and vulnerable they are, it helps to break the narrative they are trying to build. It’s all about perception, facts are less important than belief. But, facts can be useful in shaping belief.

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      I mean, I didn’t watch it either, but If you are in a state that isn’t purple, maybe you should be registered as a Republican to be part of the primary to pick the best of the worst. My state only has primary by party.

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        I’m in Virginia, which is pretty purple. That said, we have open primaries, but you are only allowed to vote in one. I have seriously considered voting in the Republican Primary for that reason. Biden is going to win any sort of Democratic Primary; so, not much point voting in the DNC Primary. However, I don’t expect my vote would be impactful at all. Southwest Virginia has Trump’s cock so far down it’s collective throat it stopped being oral and started being anal. Even where I’m at, we have idiots whose yards have been decorated with Trump banners for over 7 years now. If he doesn’t win the GOP Primary in Virginia, I’ll be incredibly surprised.

        If I do go out to vote in the GOP Primary, I’d probably have to pick Haley, just for the fun of seeing Republicans lining up behind a woman for a reason other than groping her. Also, I think it would be hilarious to see leftist pundits twist themselves in knots dealing with the GOP having a relatively younger woman and a minority as their candidate versus the old white guy. But, with her currently polling well behind DeSantis and a very, very distant third to Trump, I suspect that has basically zero chance of happening.

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        To his credit, he does appear to be the only GOP candidate with clear, actionable policies he is pushing.

        They are batshit insane, but at least he has ideas other than “vote against anything the Dems like.”

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      That last part is all that really matters in this case. None of them can make their insanity interesting to watch without the reality TV star around.

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    […] lowest viewership since 2015

    Hasn’t there only been one other debate since then…? That’s rather misleading.

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        It also represents — by a significant margin — the lowest TV audience for any Republican presidential debate since the start of the 2016 cycle, when Trump first became a candidate.

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      Probably looking at all republican debates since 2015. In short, the lowest its been since Trump.

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    Why would you want to watch? They’re all a bunch of losers and one worse than the next. They’re the current failures that rose to the top.

    None have compelling arguments or solutions and are only there to shitsling each other. Even monkeys at the zoo are smarter.

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      What, you don’t think that 70 million racist conservative rubes would vote for a brown man with the name Ramaswamy?

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        You think half the voting population is racist? The fact that he’s on that stage, or Nikki Hailey was elected governor, or the last governor of Louisiana, or the FCC head under Trump exist should tell you how wrong you are. Your team does not own all the brown people.

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          Republicans aren’t all racist. But they have shown that racism isn’t a deal breaker.

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          Your team does not own all the brown people.

          Telling choice of words there. Could have gone with “represents” went with “own”.

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            That’s not true either, almost every racist I run into on the internet talks mad shit about republicans for supporting Israel. Most of them wouldn’t vote for either party. I saw multiple news articles about klansmen in 2016 supporting Hillary Clinton on the grounds that she was anti desegregation when she worked on the Goldwater campaign in the 60s.

            I’ve met numerous liberals and leftists that were racist in private. Hell, Che Guevara was an outspoken racist. I don’t think racism is partisan, there are just people like that out there.

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          It showed that America, if it is going to keep its greatness, is in desperate need of new politicians or a new generation of politicians. All these people on the debate stage have no clue how hard it is out there right now or what people stree going through. Desperate people need help, solutions, and answers. These debaters/ Republicans aren’t it.

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    Couldn’t watch it without a cable subscription or signing up for a streaming service. That’s probably at least part of it.

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    Nobody wants to watch a bunch of losers kiss the ass of an elephant who isn’t even in the room (honorable mention to C. Christie who clearly does not kiss Trump’s ass)

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      Chris Christie. Maybe the least smelly turd in the group. He still smells like shit and now the question is whether he’s only trying to separate himself from the others while still planning to deliver the exact same steaming mess any of them would. Is he hedging his bet that trump is falling to the charges?

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        At this point, they all are counting on the chance that he won’t be able to run for one reason or another.