Totally.
The Milky Way is on a collision course with Andromeda, so we are already on our way!
Maybe Andromeda is coming to save us. Isn’t that what The Andromeda Strain was all about?
You are confusing that with Galactica from Andromeda out of the “Hello Spencer” TV series.
The “Andromeda Strain” was about human hubris and the reasons we are probably not going to become intergalactic travellers…
That reference was a bit strained.
Humans? Nope. Some kind of actual AGI that doesn’t care about long time scales and can be lashed to a metal rich asteroid and flung out of the solar system? Still probably not, but it could maybe make it to some interesting intra-galactic destinations.
This is basically the foundation for Stanislaw Lem’s book The Cyberiad. What if robots built robots that write poetry and fight robotic dragons and travel the stars.
Also the Bobiverse books. Human brain uploaded to a machine and strapped to an engine to sail the stars where stuff happens
Ooh! I love Lem! I do recommend him for any sci-fi lovers.
Nope
Greg Egan’s Diaspora sets out how humanity could explore the galaxy and even the multiverse, which if you can’t be bothered reading consists of:
- Upload conciousness into computers, leave physical bodies.
- Miniaturise computers until we have spaceships in the grams/nano grams
- As we’re no longer connected to time we can build massive solar system sized technologies, built by nanotech, that sure could take hundreds of years to build but in our virtual realms we could easily sleep.
- Use Lasers to propel our nanogram spaceships to 90% light speed. Even then for the astronauts, time is almost nothing (time goes slower the faster you go). A trip across the galaxy would feel like mere weeks to you. We could explore the universe as immortals.
- At this point we should have a pretty good understanding of dark matter/energy and how to move between universes (the multiverse, depending if you accept it as a base for explaining non locality)
- Which would allow us become eternal.
In the here and now the only way to travel to another system with our current tech is via nuclear pulse engines.
Basically you build a large spaceship. Stick it on massive shock absorbers which are in turn connected to a metre plus thick steel plate.
Cut small hole in the middle. Have a door that opens closes.
Eject 1kt explosive device out door. Repeat 500x till you get to orbit.
Basically you could get a spaceship up to very high speed with nuclear pulse engines to turn a multi hundred year journey into less then 100 years.
That said the biggest problem with interstellar journeys is that our material science and manufacturing tolerances are pretty shit. Essentially all of the air will leak out through the metal skin of the spaceship.
I still think carving put an asteroid, sticking engine on it (see nuclear pulse engines) , covering it in ice and water will solve the problems radiation shielding, losing critical gases and provide ample fuel and water for a very long journey.
Not for humanity, not as we currently understand ourselves as humans anyway.
I’d argue that it may not happen for individuals. But our DNA? Our culture? Or knowledge? I’m pretty sure these things will travel the stars one day.
Stars yes, voyager is carrying a lot of that info already! But the delta between stars and galaxies is monumental. Andromeda is 2.5 million light years away. The time scales aren’t even something we can grasp.
With our current understanding of physics it is impossible. Sucks, I love sci fi but they all rely on inventing some magic machine to make it possible.
And to be clear, when you occasionally read about someone saying it’s not impossible……. That’s late night bs sessions on illicit substances. Usually the article is really “from our understanding of physics we have this math equation where we can actually enter values and the equation still gives a result, given a list of impossible prerequisites.
Speed of light limitation. Andromeda is 2.5 million light years away. Even if someone debunks special relativity and finds you could go faster than light, you would be moving so fast relative to cosmic dust particles that it would destroy the ship. So, either way, you cannot practically go faster than the speed of light.
The only way we could have intergalactic travel is a one-way trip that humanity here on earth would be long gone by the time it reached its destination so we could never know if it succeeded or not.
We will just have to let Andromeda come to us.
No, I genuinely don’t believe it will. I don’t think the human race will ever reach another star, though I do believe it could be possible if we avoided going extinct for a few thousand years.
Another galaxy? No chance, not unless we figure out FTL, which I don’t believe is likely. The only FTL I’ve heard of that might be possible is the Alcubierre drive, but it relies on things that are so exotic, it’s likely impossible to create one.
Absolutely.
What form it will take is the question. FTL, not likely but long ago we didn’t believe in breaking the speed of sound. Generation ships, solar sails, ion drives, folding spacetime, it will happen somehow if we survive as a species.
The kind where one can get to a different galaxy in a single lifetime? I doubt it.
No, not unless we have made some serious mistakes in our understanding of physics.
I would say it’s pretty likely that we have made some serious mistakes but also probably not possible.
No, but yes- of course assuming humanity continues in a meaningful way. I mean technically we are already travelers- we’re already traveling through space at high speed… https://cosmic-odometer.vercel.app/
In terms of lightspeed travel, I think no, and definitely not sci-fi warp tech, BUT generational ships where people live and continue to reproduce over gigantic time scales could. If a ship had enough space, ecosystem of its own, etc- we could continue at “sub light” travel pretty much indefinitely without any ludicrous scientific advances beyond radiation shielding, etc.
Again though, that’s a long, LONG way off and would require we stop trying so hard to off ourselves and the lovely little blue marble we currently traverse life on.
With a generational ship and a shield and a way of blocking cosmic rays I think it will eventually be possible, but take a very long time. I don’t believe light speed will ever be possible, but going near light speed starts slowing down time a whole bunch for those on board the ships. So if for instance we came up with some trickery to get up to 99% the speed of light and wanted to go to a planet one galaxy over that’s 25,000 light years away, in theory the ship and the people in it would get there in about 1200 years. Even though it would be like 25,000 years for anyone who wasn’t on the ship. At 99.999% it would only take what would seem like about 115 years on the ship.
I’m not going to say that’s flat out impossible that it could happen but we’d have to find one hell of a way to cheat the system.
Alternatively, I think it will come about (if humans don’t kill ourselves off) that a person can “live forever” in one form or another. If we get to that point then pesky things like travel time and atmospheres and such will be much less an issue. I then wonder how long a person would want to be around before they decided they’d rather “self terminate”.
I sure hope not
It already is and so is time travel but you wouldn’t believe someone on the internet?
