• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Republicans were never going to compromise.

    So why not have taken a position which is actually defensible, like abolishing ICE/ DHS, instead of the reform position, which is actually indefensible.

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      19 hours ago

      Because democrats negotiate before they get to the table.

      How else could they frame capitulation as compromise?

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      19 hours ago

      Because Israel and the billionaires who doneate to establishment Dems want a fascist USA, and are ordering them to not actually resist.

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    17 hours ago

    Uh, color me ever-so-slightly skeptical that even a brief DHS shutdown is even remotely possible, when both parties so enthusiastically support the status quo.

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      Note that this doesn’t impact ICE, as they were so special they already got massive funding independent of this discussion.

      Hence why the GOP doesn’t care that much.

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      FEMA is pretty useful when it functions well. Some of the other stuff, not so much

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        FEMA just paid Florida $600 million to ‘reimburse’ them for Alligator Alcatraz while refusing to give $47 million in aid to Colorado after they suffered flooding and wildfires.

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        FEMA WAS useful. What good are they if Trump denies emergency declarations on a whim? They’ll just use the funds and manpower to help ICE.

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        At least now it will be shutdown for Republican run states as well. My understanding is that it has been doled out politically by the Trump administration.

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    I wonder how many ICE fucks know they’re supposed to work without pay while DHS is unfunded? The worst of the worst are literally just there to hurt people so they’ll happily stick around. Will enough resign to make it “unsafe” for the remainder to continue operating?

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      The ICE guys still get paid:

      While there is some FY2026 funding for ICE, the agency received a $75 billion infusion of funding over the next decade through the already-passed “Big Beautiful Bill,” so a lapse in funding at DHS would not cease operations there.

      Even if this funding doesn’t show up, ICE will still have more funds than the FBI.