Christy Ratliff is sitting in a folding chair in a public school gym in Grundy, Virginia, waiting for her number to be called. She arrived at 4 a.m. on this October Saturday to secure her position in line to have eight teeth pulled. Genetic gum disease, she explains, has left most of them rotten or broken. She hooks a finger to pull down her lip and show me gruesome damage—the kind most dentists see only in textbooks.
Ratliff is 29 years old.
Grundy, the seat of Buchanan County, sits deep in the Appalachian Mountains of Southwest Virginia. This weekend, it’s hosting a free clinic courtesy of Remote Area Medical, a nonprofit like Doctors Without Borders, but for places in the United States where the health outcomes are as grim as those in many developing countries. RAM founder Stan Brock once suggested that because Grundy is so inaccessible, his volunteers should literally parachute into town, as he once did while working in rural Africa.
Despite all the faith these locals have put in Trump, his second term is threatening their precarious existence. Few places in America are as reliant on the federal government. According to a recent study, 45 percent of the personal income of Buchanan County residents comes from Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), and government disability programs. Federal dollars also account for about 15 percent of the county budget, subsidizing nearly every aspect of local life—education, economic development, disaster recovery, housing, sewer infrastructure. And Trump has succeeded in jeopardizing or eliminating nearly all of it.
“We live in a remote part of the world,” the driver says, declining to give his name. He’s here for denture work because Bradshaw has no dentist. He grew up in a holler, and like generations of his people, worked in the coal industry, including once for a company owned by Sen. Jim Justice (R-W.Va.)—until his paychecks bounced, a chronic problem at Justice’s mines. Now he works in logging. He has no health insurance, he says. Like 80 percent of McDowell County’s voters, he cast his ballot for Trump: “He’s kicking ass and taking names. He’s cleaning up the gangs. He’s doing awesome with the immigrants, too.”
The Cheeto is pissing in their faces and they’re all collectively screeching “Yes, raaaiiinnnn, thank you Lord!”
You can’t fix stupid.
Hard to believe this is the nation that split the atom and then put man on the moon.
He thinks our people are idiots.
… then proceeds to list evidence
This sounds like a problem that takes care of itself, like so many other problems.
We have over-fishing. No problem, keep fishing until the fish are all gone. No more over-fishing.
We are destroying the climate. Keep destroying the climate until the people are all gone. Bingo! No more climate destruction.
These people have no food. Keep taking away the food until the people are gone. Boom! No more food shortage.
I mean this is simple stuff people. There’s no need to address any of it. It all takes care of itself.
That’s how cults work.
He has no health insurance, he says. Like 80 percent of McDowell County’s voters, he cast his ballot for Trump: “He’s kicking ass and taking names. He’s cleaning up the gangs. He’s doing awesome with the immigrants, too.”
JFC. He’s kicking your ass, and taking your name. And how many “gangs” are there in the holler?
These people should just wear signs directed at Republican politicians:
Kick me right in the balls to own the libs!
What you have to understand is that this is a death cult. These people have nothing, not even the hope for something more. They don’t care anymore; they just want people to suffer as they do. They know they’ll die without assistance, they just hope we all join them.
FTFY: Trump has betrayed people
of coal country.“He thinks our people are idiots.”
Well, he isn’t that wrong, is he?
he has not betrayed them, he is infact in the WHITE House doing what he is doing because voted for him to do those things.
One of the volunteers mentions that SNAP benefits were due to be cut on November 1 because of the government shutdown. “That’s going to be terrible,” Fields says with alarm. “If they cut out food stamps, we’re going to be swamped. In this area, they’ve already laid off a bunch of people from Wellmore. They need help.”
The prediction proved prescient. In a Facebook post at the end of November, a month after the new SNAP rules took effect, Feeding My Sheep announced, “Our shelves are currently depleted. We typically maintain a three-month supply of food. This past month, we distributed 32 percent more food than usual. Notably, we served a record 630 families.”
Did Fields know that Trump’s budget cuts were the reason she was getting less food from USDA, and why SNAP was getting cut? Her response reflected the restraint I had come to recognize in the women here, especially when dealing with outsiders. “He may not realize what’s happening,” she finally responds. “I’m praying that he will take care of America. I’m hoping he gets food to the needy.”
That’s a cult within a cult within a desperate population.
This is why we can’t have sympathy nor empathy for MAGAts, and having any for them is both weakness and morally objectionable.
These people prove time and time again they are beyond redemption and operate solely on hatred for minorities and women.
Its fucking infuriating to see so many leftists still blind themselves with this undeniable bullshit that MAGAts can still be reached, or that their ignorance is not also malice.
These people are a hostile enemy, plain and simple.
According to a recent study, 45 percent of the personal income of Buchanan County residents comes from Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), and government disability programs
And yet they voted for someone who would call them ‘lazy parasites’ and wanted to end ‘handouts’… really there’s no saving them.
No, my social security and SNAP benefits aren’t handouts because my skin is white
I hear ya, and I so get it. But look, these people aren’t trying to be evil or whatever. They’re getting crushed out of existence and grasping for anything familiar. Stupidly, poorly, but some of it’s understandable.
It’s a shame all the way around. Places like these are home to racist bullies, jesus freaks, gravy seals and crooked good ol’ boys, but they’re also home to people just literally trying to feed their family and be a good person as best as they know how.
If you want to condemn everyone, you have to wrong some innocents. I think we all know that Fox News and the republican party have created this self-defeating dystopia, but it’s not all bad and it can definitely be good.
The article is long but there’s lots of examples.
I hear ya, and I so get it. But look, these people aren’t trying to be evil or whatever.
I grew up in Appalachia.
These people do not have bad hearts insofar as they’re not sociopaths. They’re very capable of kindness and love, even towards total strangers.
But they bear a set of bizarre values that absolutely ends up with them trying to be, by our standards, evil.
If someone is trying to kill me, I am going to defend myself and I am not going to feel bad if in that defense they meet their demise.
These people, for whatever the reason may be, are trying to kill me and people I care about. And it may be different where you are, but the ones around where I live hate, genuinely hate anyone that disagrees with their way of life and they chant for their death.
So, fuck these people, fuck all of them even the ones that are being duped or are being taken advantage of - because as long as they exist they will continue to contribute to the problem.
I feel bad if some chickens have to be culled due to disease. I love animals. But I recognize they still need to be culled.
So do these people.
I feel bad if some chickens have to be culled due to disease.
Oh you’re too good to compare them to rats, eh. How very.
I hear ya, and I so get it. But look, these people aren’t trying to be evil or whatever. They’re getting crushed out of existence and grasping for anything familiar. Stupidly, poorly, but some of it’s understandable.
I disagree whole heartedly and I’d point to both this article and the countless examples of these human chodes seal clapping and cheering along the murder of innocent civilians by the ICE gestapo as just one example.
These people have reached a point to where they are either outright denying Trump’s child rape and going all g with the Epstein cover up, or outright doing everything they can to justify child rape and act like its no big deal since Trump does it.
This pattern repeats with literally all evils their god-emporer does. What the left needs to realize is we have long surpassed the point where MAGA malice and MAGA ignorance has become the same exact thing.
There is zero excuse whatsoever. There is nothing to understand from their perspectives. The dog whistles have become bull horns. They are, quite simply, a hostile enemy of democracy and human rights. And their legacy will only ever remain the colossal ocean of blood they left behind.
It’s a shame all the way around. Places like these are home to racist bullies, jesus freaks, gravy seals and crooked good ol’ boys, but they’re also home to people just literally trying to feed their family and be a good person as best as they know how.
And what you should understand is the “people just literally trying to feed their family and be a good person as best as they know how.” are objectively not the Trumpers. They simply are not.
These people don’t continue to worship Trump because they’re desperate. They do it because they believe in his power. They believe in his genocide of brown people. They believe in his crusade against lgbtq+ people. And they believe in his war on everyone who isn’t a white Christian man.
We need to stop pretending these people have good intentions. Good intentions don’t compromise basic morality and fundamental critical thinking skills. Hate does. Greed does. Hostility does. Malice does.
If you want to condemn everyone, you have to wrong some innocents.
This is fundamentally untrue when it comes to the MAGA cult. They are irrefutably supporting the billionaire cabal of child rape Trump and Epstein both ran. They are objectively supporting the genocide of racial minorities, the lgbtq+ crowd, Palestinians, and so many more.
They’re praising the ICE Gestapo conducting a domestic genocide and killing any and all dissidents. They’re running to their keyboards, families, neighbors and coworkers to scream the exact bullshit propaganda Trump feeds them to justify such atrocities.
I need you to take a moment to realize you’re genuinely, and unreasonably trying to scrape up some nuance… of Nazism.
Here’s some advice to save you time: there is ZERO nuance to Nazism. All Nazis are bastards. All Nazis are enemies. Because all Nazis ultimately want to see you, everyone you love and everyone you care for killed.
Its simply just reality.
I think we all know that Fox News and the republican party have created this self-defeating dystopia, but it’s not all bad and it can definitely be good.
There’s nothing good about Nazism or Nazis. Full stop, plain and simple.
Bravo homie. I hope you’re not using* AI because this comment is the shit.
Not AI. You can tell because I keep making typos on my phone keyboard.
Hate all you want, we have to find a way to show them what’s actually happening.
Because I disagree they know shit about Gaza or USAID or DOGE and we want H4A so how are we gonna get there when they keep voting in whoever’s on tv?
Hate all you want, we have to find a way to show them what’s actually happening.
It’s all out there in the open. Its not that they don’t see this information because its not reaching them. It’s because they don’t want to see it.
Don’t get me wrong, we should still spam-fuck it to them, but don’t expect much in the way of rescuing any of them from.the cult.
Because I disagree they know shit about Gaza or USAID or DOGE and we want H4A so how are we gonna get there when they keep voting in whoever’s on tv?
It doesn’t matter, does it?
They didn’t know shit about Iran did they? Yet they all scrambled to justify the failed and illegal bombing of Iran after it happened.
They didn’t know shit about Venezuela, did they? Yet suddenly they’re scrambling to support regime change war in Venezuela and raping the country of its oil.
They didn’t support the idea of the feds publicly executing someone for exercising their 2nd Amendment rights, did they. Yet they’re all foaming at the mouth to justify Alex Pretti’s murder and are blaming him having a gun.
You need to understand that it doesn’t matter, not even in the slightest, what you expose to these Nazi fucks. They will change every position they have to defend Trump and his atrocities.
Latest example: everything to do with Epstein and Trump raping children coming to light. Suddenly they’re all pro-child rape now.
Its not that they don’t see this information because its not reaching them. It’s because they don’t want to see it.
It’s both. “Fox News desert” is totally a thing.
It doesn’t matter, does it?
It so does.
My point is even when you do broadcast the truth and all evidence to these Nazi pieces of shit, they immediately reject it and double down. It doesn’t matter how isolated they may be in theory. The moment that isolation ends, they double down. Every. Single. Fucking. Time.
And no, it actually doesn’t matter whatsoever, for that reason.
MAGA ignorance and MAGA malice are the same.
Because I disagree they know shit about Gaza or USAID or DOGE
They don’t know shit about those things because they discard any information that makes them uncomfortably while privileging any information that affirms their pre-existing position or prejudices. I pride myself that I’m pretty good at arguing with people, and IRL, I tend to take a much softer tone because I have to deal with these fucks day-in and day-out. There’s no block function in meatworld if I find them too tedious. And let me tell you - you can lay it out in terms they absolutely understand, and in a week, a day, an hour, they will revert to their prior position. They don’t ‘forget’ what was said, they disregard it. “Well, it’s just my opinion. Who knows what’s true anyway? There’s a lot of lies on both sides.”
Their positions are not predicated on their knowledge, nor are they interested in retaining knowledge that contradicts their positions.
and we want H4A so how are we gonna get there when they keep voting in whoever’s on tv?
Fucked if I know. Really wish that ‘demographic destiny’ bullshit peddled in the late 2000s worked out better.
Really wish that ‘demographic destiny’ bullshit peddled in the late 2000s worked out better.
Honestly, I think that’s partly why the conservatives are all having a collective freakout and back someone like Pedonald.
Wish I had that kind of optimism anymore.
Heh, I’m not sure I’d call it optimism. I’m pretty sure a lot of the reactionary voters have at least some dim awareness that adherence to xtianity has been falling off a cliff for many years, and that America is increasingly less white, more accepting of LGBTQ, etc…
In fact, I seem to recall one of their thought leaders explicitly saying that Europe is increasingly more fascist-friendly in certain countries because more refugees were admitted.
I’ve definitely have seen online trolls on various platforms actively hoping to see Republicans win here for the same reasons, and then put policies into place that would actively reverse such things - close the borders to all but whites, revoke gay marriage, crush trans, crush non-xtians, and deport anyone non-white (or worse). I’ve seen some of them champion things like repealing Virginia v. Loving and sending out government goons to round up “race traitors” for murder.
Republicans really do feel entitled to say some of the very worst things online, that’s for sure. Especially after Pedonald “won” the first time. As an example, I saw some of the very worst of this kind of thing on Diaspora. I cannot imagine dipping into something like 4chan at that time, Jesus.
That’s the hyper liberal weakness. Empathy for all. Care for all. Acceptance for all.
Unfortunately, in reality, that is not possible unless you want to be destroyed.
I agree that once you keep tolerating the intolerable so far that rot sets in, yeah, it’ll be a bad time. But I think a lot of this could have been solved by empathy in the first place. People caring enough for their neighbours to feed the needy, or educate children with genuine love, or just handling with care people who a long time ago could have used some empathy, or even sympathy.
Instead they get starved, taxed to death, left to the evangelical wolves, extorted by health care, killed by their government. No wonder they have no empathy left to give back when the world could really use it, they’ve been exploited too, brainwashed, in their algorithmic social media bubbles.
I’m not foolish enough to believe that it solves every issue, and psychopaths aren’t going to be cured, but if the system didn’t treat people the way it does, we’d have a whole lot less of this strife.
At least, it seems to me that you need some empathy to build a functioning society, because we can see with our own eyes the manifestation of one without it
When you start policing who we can and can’t have empathy for you’re literally agreeing with JD Vance.
How incredibly stupid.
I’m telling you not to spare empathy for a hostile, violent mob of Nazis. If you see a problem with that, then buddy I got news for you. You are the problem.
You, and every single supposed leftist who’s crying about us taking the right position on this issue, are the modern incarnation of Neville Chamberlain. And just like him, the kid gloves you approach these Nazi bastards with is only going to create far more suffering and far more enabling of their atrocities.
So get with the program, or sit this one the fuck out, because you aren’t helping, you’re objectively hurting.
I’m telling you not to spare empathy for a hostile, violent mob of Nazis. If you see a problem with that, then buddy I got news for you. You are the problem
… you mean the lady with most of her teeth rotting out of her head at 29, who maybe would just keep voting against how own interests for her abuser who keeps telling her the left hates her, everybody hates her, nobody loves her but him because she’s unlovable, and then of course keeps abusing her?
Except the article mentions she didn’t even bother to vote at all. But yeah she says she still supports Trump. You think that lady is really paying attention to Jack shit in the world outside of her day to day grind of figuring out how to function and idk just eat like a normal person while constantly living with the pain of all her fucking teeth rotting out of her head?
Hopefully somebody can be sure to pass on your message telling everybody thinks she’s worthless and hopes she fucking dies because she’s poor and dumb.
Surely next time she’ll think long and hard about the consequences of voting (or not voting) in her own interest. Hopefully the Dems already have you booked as a campaign strategist because your finger is on the pulse of the heartland.💓🇺🇸
Roughly 20 percent of Buchanan County residents have no teeth at all. “That’s not something you see even in dental school,” says Dr. Kevin D’Angelo, a University of Buffalo dentistry professor who’s been overseeing the local RAM dental clinic for decades. “You just don’t get that.”
Well… yeah but she probably voted for him in 2016 too. I bet before Trump was ever elected it was probably a booming metropolis. It’s not like Appalachia’s problems stem from being one of the areas hit the hardest by the opiate epidemic that began before Obama was even office. Or like it’s a generally long neglected part of America in dire need of help or anyth…
In 2015, the Atlantic dubbed Grundy “the sickest town in America.” Now it is famous for another reason: One of America’s sickest, poorest places is also one of its Trumpiest.
Well yeah but this probably just goes to show those people are so fucking worthless it’s probably genetic. Anyway who gives a shit Just throw a tarp over it or something AMIRITE?!
🫸🫷…/s
…you mean the lady with most of her teeth rotting out of her head at 29, who maybe would just keep voting against how own interests for her abuser who keeps telling her the left hates her, everybody hates her, nobody loves her but him because she’s unlovable, and then of course keeps abusing her?
Except the article mentions she didn’t even bother to vote at all. But yeah she says she still supports Trump. You think that lady is really paying attention to Jack shit in the world outside of her day to day grind of figuring out how to function and idk just eat like a normal person while constantly living with the pain of all her fucking teeth rotting out of her head?
My fucking dude, you aren’t paying attention. Not just to me, but to current events and the world at large.
Let me reiterate so it sticks this time:
The cult opposed invading Venezuela… until Trump did it.
The cult opposed war with Iran… until Trump illegally bombed them.
The cult opposed Martial Law… until Trump started sending the military and ICE Gestapo to US cities.
The cult opposed lowering taxes on the rich while raising taxes on the poor… until Trump did that.
The cult demanded free and open markets with no regulations… until Trump illegally declared tarrifs
The cult passionately demanded the release of the Epstein Files… until Trump told them no.
The cult passionately opposed child rape… until it became undeniable that Trump did it
Your obnoxiously and unreasonably generous portrayal of these Nazi fucks is, not only not based in reality, but makes it clear you’d rather put more time and effort into playing defense for them, than all the people the hurt. You place them above the minorities and dissidents in concentration camps, and above all the children Trump and his cult rape.
Hopefully somebody can be sure to pass on your message telling everybody thinks she’s worthless and hopes she fucking dies because she’s poor and dumb.
Or pass on the message that the objective reality of the situation is that these people are Nazis who’s greatest motive is hate and desire to harm and kill those they hate.
You need to get it through your head that we have FAR surpassed the point where MAGA ignorance and malice have become one in the same. Their ignorance is both willful and intentional.
You’re also doing your best to make countless baseless presumptions about the information flow to these people that would require a Pyongyang level censorship campaign, that simply doesn’t exist to a scale even slightly close enough to encompass the MAGA cultists. Nor even on the lowest classes of their ranks.
Surely next time she’ll think long and hard about the consequences of voting (or not voting) in her own interest. Hopefully the Dems already have you booked as a campaign strategist because your finger is on the pulse of the heartland.💓🇺🇸
Again, more irrational and unwarranted generosity to Nazis. But this time with the flair of a temper tantrum in the form of a cringe sentiment that I promise you didn’t hit anywhere as close to hard as it did in your head.
Why are you so desperate to defend (and fail at it) Nazis? Seems sus.
Roughly 20 percent of Buchanan County residents have no teeth at all. “That’s not something you see even in dental school,” says Dr. Kevin D’Angelo, a University of Buffalo dentistry professor who’s been overseeing the local RAM dental clinic for decades. “You just don’t get that.”
I’m not sure why you keep harping on this point so hard. Do you think dental health correlates to cognitive ability? I promise you it doesn’t.
But if your point is that they’re poor, then I got bad news for you, fella. One that I don’t think you’ll like to see with your argument. The poor generally vote Dem. Poverty isn’t an excuse to be a Nazi.
Well… yeah but she probably voted for him in 2016 too. I bet before Trump was ever elected it was probably a booming metropolis. It’s not like Appalachia’s problems stem from being one of the areas hit the hardest by the opiate epidemic that began before Obama was even office. Or like it’s a generally long neglected part of America in dire need of help or anyth…
In 2015, the Atlantic dubbed Grundy “the sickest town in America.” Now it is famous for another reason: One of America’s sickest, poorest places is also one of its Trumpiest.
More of the same bullshit so no point in refuting a pile on to a point I’ve already demonstrated is bullshit.
Well yeah but this probably just goes to show those people are so fucking worthless
No I think the support for Martial Law to crack down on dissidents, mass support for cutting food aid for people domestically and internationally, cutting essential services, sending minorities and dissidents to concentration camps, executing innocent people publicly in the streets, the total collapse of the rule of law, the collapse of the USD, and of course, the billionaire pedophile cabal certainly cuts at the worth of these people.
pit’s probably genetic.
Not you defending Nazis then trying to insinuate that I might be making a eugenics argument. Smdh
Anyway who gives a shit Just throw a tarp over it or something AMIRITE?!
🫸🫷
You’re sarcaatically suggesting inaction to these issues, which is exactly the logical endpoint of your position. Doing nothing but letting the Nazis roll us over… because you’re too afraid you might hurt the magical unicorn that is the entirely non-malicious MAGA cultist Nazi. Baffling, really.
Tl;Dr You’re both wrong and noticeably putting a sus amount of effort into defending pedophile loving Nazis. You’re disgusting.
I’m about 99% sure you’re a fucking troll, but what the hell maybe somebody can scroll by and learn something. Bc clearly your mind is already made up and you know everything there is to know about anything.
But for anybody who maybe doesn’t have it all figured out yet, this is why it’s not such a brilliant fucking idea to lump all poor people together and strip away their humanity regardless of whether they’re actual rabid Nazis and Nazi supporters or just people stuck living in poverty and under the boot of the oligarchs who targeted and captured them decades ago.
I very much understand. I live in a blue dot in a red state. I grew up in a red state. The oligarchy that you’re just now noticing is something I’ve been pushing against my entire life. When I was a kid, wealthy conservatives started buying up all the local radio stations across America. Then they started buying up all the local TV stations. Then they started buying up all the social media networks.
So I know this is probably so beneath you, but just try to put yourself in the shoes of one of these people for a second. Just for a moment, for shits n giggles imagine these are just humans like you and me.
How does any human come to hold any set of beliefs or make decisions about anything? It’s not a trick question or even rocket science. It’s basically just input and output. They take in information and that information typically influences the future decisions they make.
Regarding oral health and cognitive abilities, you’re actually so fucking wrong here it should almost be a crime for you to be so ignorantly confident.
I’ll post the links here in just a second, but I promise you, oral health is significantly correlated with both quality of life and overall health, including cognitive functioning.
•Recent Research Points to a Two-Way Relationship Between Mental and Oral Health
•Oral health: A window to your overall health
If you’re living in poverty, struggling with health issues, and working to scrape by day to day, believe me, life tends to get a little rough. Sometimes you can barely keep up with the things going on in your own world, let alone outside of that world. So when you do have a second to check out what’s going on outside of your own surroundings, how do you do that?
Radio, TV, and social media right? Or have you ascended to some plane of higher consciousness that allows you to tap into a collective hive mind and become one with the rest of the world? Regardless of how you have ascended, most people are limited to readily available technology for their information. Guess who controls all of that information?
You know the reason I’m even on Lemmy is because Reddit is now as controlled as Facebook and other social media. People kept telling me I was being paranoid because I kept saying I was pretty sure state police or affiliates (who just happen to be official partners with ICE and the federal government) had been monitoring and censoring discussions on my local subreddit for quite some time. So, imagine how surprised I was to read an article in national news about DHS records of ICE contractors and state fusion centers specifically monitoring my city’s subreddit? Answer: Not very.
So, not only are oligarchs keeping you and everyone around you uneducated, sick, and poor, they’re also tightly controlling and even censoring every obvious way you have of sharing and discussing information. Why do you think that is? 🤔
Have you ever looked at a presidential map of Democrat’s victory in 1992 to their loss in 1988? Probably not because most people don’t really talk about it.
Here’s 1988:
Here’s 1992:
What is it that you think made all those states (full of rabid Nazis these days) go from showing such sweeping support of Bush in '88 and Reagan the two elections before, to suddenly flip blue for a godless demoncrat? Is it because red states just love the Clinton’s so much they couldn’t resist? Obviously they despise them now, and Clinton dropped the act by the time he ran for his second term, but most people seem to have forgotten that •Clinton ran as a populist during his first term.
He reached out to these people and said I hear you, I see you, I know you’re hurting and you need help. Let me help you. Surprisingly it worked. Unsurprisingly, it was after this election oligarchs began snatching up radio stations across America and tightening their grip on information coming into these states.
So, when you lump all these people together and refuse to see them as humans, just what the fuck do you think you’re accomplishing? You’re providing the administration with ammunition and propaganda they will then use once it’s time for them to make the rounds only to remind these people that the rest of America truly does hate them. They see them as deserving blame for their own situation and unworthy of the basic standard of living that every American should have, and is more than entitled to.
But these people have nobody to blame but themselves, right? So when JD Vance is making the next rounds, he doesn’t even have to promise these people anything for their support. He just has to remind them of what every radio, news, and internet source tells them already. The left hates you because you’re not one of them.
So, regardless of whether they vote or don’t even bother to vote, why the fuck would they suddenly mobilize in solidarity with people that refuse to even see them as human?
I’m about 99% sure a fucking troll
But for anybody who maybe doesn’t have it all figured out yet, here is why it’s not such a brilliant fucking idea to lump all poor people together and strip away their humanity regardless of whether they’re actual rabid Nazis and Nazi supporters or just people stuck living in poverty and under the boot of the oligarchs who targeted and captured them decades ago.
Fucking ironic. I can’t tell if you’re illiterate or trolli g yourself, but I can’t take anything you say seriously after that blatant bullshit.
Lemme summarize the rest of this dribbled you embarrassingly vomited onto this thread I front of god and everybody.
Constant speculation and conjecture that aims to
- Separate people from their own beliefs and actions
- Make a case that would require us all to accept that poor people are brainless drones who follow the leader no matter what, with the ones not doing that being an anomaly
- Completely take any and all responsibility for the Nazi actions and beliefs away from… the fucking Nazis doing Nazi things and believing in Nazi beliefs
God, could you imagine if you put this time and energy into resisting the Nazis instead of trying to convince them to touch tips with you?
Tell you what, try reaching and reasoning with one of these Nazis. Didn’t work for Neville Chamberlain, or anyone else who’s tried it to fascists throughout history, but hey, you’re a special little camper with ambitions so maybe you can disprove centuries of precedents when dealing with autocrats in power.
And when ICE is dragging you out of your home and laying you on your stomach, maybe you can plead with your neighbors who have been salivating at the mouth for that to happen, to listen about how its not their fault and big ol’ meanies took advantage of them. I’m sure they’ll listen and the ICE Gestapo thug won’t ship you to a concentration camp, or just execute you.
Or maybe you can present all the evidence of Trump and MAGA republicans mass raping kids from the officially released Epstein files. I’m sure each and every one will magically grow a conscious and believe what you tell them. Its not like they’ve spent the last 10 years denying material reality for what Trump tells them, right?
/s
Face facts. The fantasy world you and I grew up in that said communication and cooperation will stop evil has fucking ended. Things have reverted back to 1930’s Germany. And trying to hold hands and tickle the ballsack of the Nazis didn’t work back then, and spoilers: It won’t fucking work now and all evidence shows that.
You are living in a fucking fantasy. Get with reality or gtfo of the fucking way.
Look, I don’t get paid to do this and I want to enjoy the rest of my weekend with my family. Plus I still need to go vote. I said what needed to be said and backed it up with citations.
I can’t stop you from spreading propaganda, so if you want to keep helping them divide and conquer, go right ahead.
Disagree. Intolerance of intolerance is far different than intolerance.
They’re basically cult members. I feel bad for them.
I kinda do and I don’t. Half of those people would call me an ethnic slur behind my back.
I’m British/Canadian and when I was in the UK during Brexit I was chatting with my friends and my Austrian friend said this to me: “we will be fine, we’re smart hardworking men in the economy … we may not eat as well, but we will find ways to eat.”
We vote to make sure we’re all safe and they vote to only make themselves safe while instead putting us all in danger. I’m all out of fucks to give to any of these people.
How dare you think they’d say it behind your back!? Its West Virginia for fuck sake! They’d say it to your face
a few more notable qoutes: suckers and losers, whats in it for them.
you vote d on what i campaigned on.
These people got nonsense views in their head because of religion. I think the only cure for many of these people we consider “too far gone” to convince rationally is through religion also.
There’s absolutely no way this is solely on religion. This is decades of voting republican simply because, “those ppl who don’t look like me shouldn’t get anything.”
Its cutting off your nose to spite your face. If I don’t get anything no one gets anything.
A big divide we have is rural vs urban. Why should rural people vote for Dems when they only discuss problems affecting the city?
And there isnt any good education to teach rural voters that these policies benefit them as well.
there isnt any good education to teach rural voters that these policies benefit them as well.
That’s done on purpose. An uneducated populous will smile while you screw them
