Hulk Hogan. Also, not really a hero, but his work had a log of influence on me- Orson Scott Card. The reasons I liked it so much are kind of cringe looking back as an adult anyway though.
What about the anti-theist and leftist public intellectuals like Dawkins, Kraus, and Chomsky who turned out to be somewhere between anti-feminist and full-blown sex-offender? Even NDTyson has some pretty credible accusations for those who remember. Dennett seemed like the only one of the “Four Horseman” who could be considered a decent human being, but nope… he’s flying the Lolita Express.
But nobody has fallen farther than Richard Dawkins. Fame did to Dawkins what the One Ring did to Smeagol.
I can’t think of any artist more divorced from their work than Orson Scott Card
He was such an amazing writer. Some of his books and themes in those books broaden lots of horizons around peace, acceptance, gender, and even race. It was clear, at least to me, that when ender used the n-word he was rebuking the other boy for his use of a Chinese slur. That was a positive message in my childhood.
And yet later he goes quite racist with that shit essay about the Obamas, and obviously homophobic in a bunch of his other activities and works.
That being said, In a way I almost don’t blame him for it, he was raised as a member of the LDS Church. While some people break out of the Mormon church, it’s not easily done. The only thing that made his standard Mormon views on these topics “important” or “special” was that he is more famous than most members of the church.
I disagree with him on most things, but he’s been programmed to act that way well beyond anything I experienced in my childhood and had to overcome.
Disappointed is the better word for my views on him.
Bill Cosby (Obvious) Scott Adams (Shitty perspectives) 2 The Ranting Gryphon (Shitty perspectives) David Draiman (Signing Bombs, Pro-Israel)
Nobody mentioned God?
I was raised Christian. Never deeply religious, but had all the bible study stuff, religious school, etc. Religion was comforting.
Then I got older and started seeing the fanboys for who they were. Hypocrites of the highest order. Assholes that armored themselves with being “Christians”. Trying to game the system or to buy their way into heaven, making it transactional. Heaven also seems like a shitty place; an existence locked into worshipping a deity while in a drugged out euphoria and never being able to learn, grow, and experience things again. A “Matrix”-like place. A God that is psychotic, manipulative, and a classic narcissistic abuser. Jesus would probably be a cool guy, but nobody actually gives a fuck about him. A book full of contradictions and other awful things that are constantly rationalized and massaged to mean whatever the needs of the individual might be. Just generally how awful any religion is, how it’s used to control people, do shitty things, and consolidate power and money.
Yeah, if you’re formerly religious, you get it. I’m an scientific atheist now.
Ironically, thanks to modern “christians”, I’ve found myself citing scripture to shitty people who claim to be religious to point out their hypocrisy, idolatry or whatever, and occasionally listening to religious people who point out how awful and un-christian these people are.
My mother. Turns out she’s a narcissistic, fascist Trump-loving Norwegian, who’s only been to the USA twice. Last time we spoke, she defended the killing of Good and Pretti, stating that innocent lives can be taken in order to get the Somali fraud.
I don’t talk to her anymore.
That is not good. I am sad to hear MAGA is alive and well in Norway. :-(
I rarely spoke to her because of her views, but the statement that killing innocent people can be justified? Fuck that.
Oh, and she supports Putin to remove all the Nazis in Ukraine.
Only ones who dissapointed me were Star Trek: Voyager actors. Its the only thing I got attached to as a kid.
Robert Beltran - Commander Chakotay
Roxann Dawson - B’Elanna Torres
Both transphobes and trump supporters who won’t shut up about no one wanting to invite them to Star Trek stuff anymore.
I used to feel bad for Rob because he got such a shit treatment in ST:V in terms of writing and because his character fell victim to Jamake High water’s grifting (look him up if you want to see why 90’s native american characters kinda suck).
My parents, unfortunately.
Bill Cosby
I wouldn’t say horrible, but the shine definitely faded off Will Smith.
He’s made some poor choices over the years.
I think that trope “Hurt people hurt people” applies to him. I think he’s desperately unhappy, and since he doesn’t know how to fix himself he’s lashing out at other people.
To me, Smith will always be a rapper first. He was right: parents just don’t understand.
Emir kusturica was my nr 1 director since forever until I found it he works for Putin now.
Black Cat White Cat and Underground were my favorite movies.
Black cat, white cat was amazing
WHAT?? No… And I saw him live with his band, The No Smoking Orchestra. Turns out I’m never listening to them again
Yeah I have great and now tarnished memories of that band as well…
Neil Gaiman. I fucking loved Sandman and damn near everything else he wrote. Finding out he’s a total scumbag has basically ruined a lot of very dear memories.
Yeah, this one hurt.
Good Omens too. Can I pretend it was written entirely by Pratchett?
Read books by Tanith Lee.
Gaiman stole the idea of Death, Evil, and Madness being related from her books.
I asked for Sandman two Christmases ago, before everything came out. Im still glad I read it, it’s good, but I wish I would’ve gotten used copies so at least he didn’t make money off it
I used to love Joss Whedon from everything he made. I grew up watching Buffy, and loved Firefly, then Marvel got him for Avengers and I was excited for him to be getting such a big break. He later Agents of Shield which I also loved. But then it came out that he was an abuser. His whole persona of championing strong women was merely a facade to hide this.
Learning that Michelle Trachtenberg (RIP) had a clause in her contract while working in Buffy (2000-3) at age 15 that she was not to ever be in the same room as Whedon alone opened my eyes to just how bad things are. Not just how bad he was, but how well it was known that he was an abuser and no one did anything about it. That’s just how things were.
I have a hard time watching Buffy or any of his works anymore, just knowing now that he was behind these things.
Yeah, it also gives me some closure with firefly being cancelled… like I the fox executive cancelled Firefly because he didn’t like Whedon, now I know why he didn’t like him. Or at least a probable reason.
And it didn’t give him a chance to be weird and creepy with Summer Glau.
Any more than he already had been.
Lest we forget she was introduced to the show naked in a box.
The man was big into the ‘born sexy yesterday’ trope.
God, the entirely of Dollhouse was the most problematic thing I’ve ever seen in retrospect (regarding the born sexy yesterday trope) and I can’t believe that past me didn’t see how messed up everything about it was. That the dolls were turned into helpless blanks between jobs and constantly sexualized in that state was so messed up.
JK Rowling
Used to love watching the Cosby show and watching his stand up specials…
When I was a kid I had one of his stand up specials on cassette and I regularly listened to it to fall asleep.
Fatherhood was a great book, and I say this as someone that won’t be having any kids.
He had that bit about being in trouble so much as a little kid he didnt know his name was bill, he thought it was Jesus Christ. Too bad hes a predator of the highest degree.
It’s worse for GenX, we watched Fat Albert and learned about things like drugs and prejudice from it. The Cosby Show happened during my cynical, anti-wholesomeness teen years so I didn’t watch that so much.
