When I figured out that a lot of people are going to spend their better years, wasting away, working jobs they hate every 40 hours of the week and 8 hours a day or longer. That is unless they either have been born with that silver spoon in their mouth or had at least been born with the tools of ambition to develop careers out of it that isn’t just slaving away, making people who’re not them, richer.
And by the time we’re done, if ever we see retirement, we’re then told to ‘enjoy retirement’. Some at 65, some far older. When we’re too frail to even enjoy anything we once could when we were younger. It’s a very cruel joke of life, if you ask me. Born to play throughout your toddler to kid to teenage days, enslaved to work through your young adolescent and adulthood days, grow old and weak as you’re older until death.
And we’re not even fully enjoying it on our way through this path either because of this design.
If anybody calls you a ‘deadbeat’ for deciding to play games all day or even sitting on your couch binge watching things. You educate them about how “productive” it is working as a wage slave and how deep in the hole it has gotten us in society.
No one is interested in my opinion. They just want me to validate theirs. If you upvote my comment is just because of that ,🤷
People just don’t really want to be my friend.
They’ll hang out when we’re having a good time or doing things together, but as soon as they no longer being entertained i don’t exist.Due to different life circumstances, I’ve had to think about what loss of abilities I’d accept before choosing to end my life. Generally, the line seems to be drawn more due to mental degregation than physical disability, but I can see either being a reason to end my life.
That said, the response is determining what I would live for. I have ideas on what kind of physical, mental, and economic capabilities I would want to continue to live. I haven’t crossed that line yet and I don’t see that happening any time soon.
Based on what you’ve said, it seems like you’re closer to that line. I don’t know what you’re living for, but people generally live for something.
You will not be “too frail” to enjoy life at 65, or even older. Don’t let that thought poison your present. I took up a competitive sport in my 60s, as well as beekeeping, and I’m not an outlier.
On the other hand, I know several people of whom one of their parents died before reading 65, or even 60. So better enjoy your life while you have it. You don’t know how much time you have.
Two important lessons are opposite aspects of the same thing:
- You’re not entitled to anyone giving a fuck 😞
- Nobody gives a fuck 😀
In other words: You’re responsible for your own happiness. And whatever makes you happy, most people won’t care, and fewer will think any less of you for it. Enjoy what you like, and don’t worry too much about what others think.
medicare covers 80% of medical and the retiree pays 20% with no cap. so enjoy that reatirement.
Realized just how badly Christianity dropped the ball in helping people find meaning and connection to “something greater”. Not only did it fail countless believers horribly, it also poisoned the well so that people can’t imagine spirituality in general being anything but grifts, dogma and belief in supernatural beings arbitrarily screwing with people.
Thankfully I had enough open mindedness to actually try to understand what makes people religious, so I read some books on different traditions and Three Pillars of Zen hit on something in me I didn’t know was there. And I got the answer to my question.
I’m a happy enough guy, and I’ve been lucky with family in my life, so this comment, while it may sound negative , hopefully won’t bring you down - it’s just a general observation from 48 years on the planet.
Basically, I’ve noticed that most ‘professional’ folk - ie Doctors, lawyers etc these days are surprisingly mediocre people.
I always assumed, as a kid, that these people in lofty positions would be intelligent, eloquent, wise and charismatic. .
Perhaps it’s because I was raised on TV and have unrealistic expectations, but the lawyers and doctors I’ve dealt with myself through work and in my personal are entirely unremarkable. I could forgive that if they were steadfast and competent, but instead I’ve found them to be mostly dull and poor at their jobs.
My superiors at work seems to be barely able to string a sentence together without ChatGPT, and our kids teachers are little better.
Anyway, rant over. Just generally fed up with how many, franky, inept people are in jobs that I once assumed were for exceptional individuals.
I’ve been of the position, although I’ve only worked in a kitchen is that some people just don’t need jobs. We should give them the minimum to enjoy life of course but there’s just too many people who are bored or too stressed out at work and make everyone else’s jobs harder.
You seem overly smug. The typical “everyone else is an idiot but not me!” That’s not new. AI has nothing to do with it.
There are countless genius people out there everywhere doing excellent things with their own skill and knowledge.
I guess you haven’t been around a lot of “professionals.” Doctors are often shockingly inept at computers.
There are countless genius people out there everywhere doing excellent things with their own skill and knowledge.
Nobody denied that. But those are definitely not most people like the post you’re replying to is taking about.
Depressing realisation about life: It ends.
Positive benefits about life: It ends.
No that’s the plus side that we all look forward to.
As I’ve grown up, the most depressing realization I had is that adults are a myth. No one knows what the hell they’re doing. People can be good at doing their thing in a specialty but world leaders are mostly putting on a brave face.
There’s no real plan. No one’s on the same page. No one’s steering the ship. It’s just a whole lot of hemming and hawing, and a few idiots doing the bull in a china shop routine.
As I’ve gotten older, I’ve learned who I am, and become comfortable with that. And, I’ve also learned who I’m not. This has reduced stress for me.
The real answer buried in the comments.
Everyone’s probably already said this, and it counts as both good and bad.
Nobody else knows what they’re doing, either. I think I learned this depressingly late in life. I had this idea that the movers and shakers of the world got there because they knew what they were doing. Their goals and mine may not align, but they know how to achieve them. It was probably when the Juicero came out and (Forbes?) had that video of someone just squeezing the bag into a glass, and then me subsequently learning how much VC funding that thing got. It made me realize that Silicon Valley tech bros and their investors live in a different world altogether.
We spend our formative years constructing a model of the world that makes sense, and the rest of our lives coming to terms with how wrong we were.
The walls seperating governments, corporations and organized crime are somewhere between transparently thin to non-existant.
tacking onto that: a lot of the things we grew up to accept as “given truth” are complete lies
That the most evil people who are willing to break laws and social norms at other’s expense are the most likely to succeed
Yet weirdly enough many people still let the psychos decide what “success” means.
If the game is rigged against you, stop playing it. Live by your examined values and get your priorities in order. If you really want tons of money, and power, by all means play the game. But if you actually value something else than money, pursue that. Money is often a shortcut, not an obstacle. People have more options than they think but the capitalistic mindset doesn’t allow people to see them. Are you going to perhaps have to sacrifice luxuries that capitalism has granted us? Yeah. Is it just that easy? No. But how fucking ungovernable would you be if you you could settle for less?
Buddhist monks are doing pretty good. Not that you have to go that extreme but just to make the point: usually people reject modest living purely because they just gotta have more. And the system everyone is bemoaning in this thread is always ready to provide more and more and more - the price is just one’s body and soul.
Most people in this thread could take a good, long look at their wants and needs and figure out which are actually which. And then decide for themselves what they can do that’s actually worth doing as per their own values.
Oh I’m not even talking about that. I’ve been through hell and back but my day to day is alright now. I’m talking on the scale of environmental collapse and fascism, no mindset will protect from that
Sure it will. We aren’t the first creatures or even people to witness what we take to be the end of the world. You can grieve it and do your best to resist it if you so feel called. If you can do so out of love for whatever it is that you value. My gratitude and respect if so.
Just stop believing that it is “bad”. Which is NOT the same as saying it’s “good”. It’s just the natural consequence of everything that has happened so far. Or do you shake your fist at the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs? Have you given a good talking to at the volcanoes in Siberia for wiping out nearly all life in the Great Dying? Or any number of other events that led to mass extinctions. Human nature is also just a natural consequence and we’re a microscopic blip in Earth’s history. Cherish what is here now and do what you’re called to do out of love for what you want to protect but you’ll spare yourself a lot of meta-suffering if you can give up the idea that there’s some right or wrong way for history to go. There’s just what is advantageous for humanity and what isn’t. I’m aligned with the former but I don’t believe that humanity should or shouldn’t exist.
Yeah no, this is a very privileged take. Many of us don’t have the privilege of being able to just ignore fascism
