Nah, it’s not intelligent.
Everything we have today wouldn’t be considered AI in science fiction.
Or in my definition. But hey what do IT experts know, right?
Yeah, intelligence is a continuum. Animals have varying degrees of intelligence (esp. corvids, cetaceans, cephalopods, other “c” animals…), but that isn’t the same as saying they have human-level intelligence. AGI and ASI are the important thresholds.
Human intelligence is a spectrum. I would say that current LLMs are at about the 20th percentile on that spectrum.
That says more about my opinions on human intelligence than LLM…
Wouldn’t that require the LLM to actually grasp ideas?
Even brain dead people can understand some things
Define “grasp ideas”.
They are beginning to be able to correlate images, sounds, text (in multiple languages). If we fitted them with other sensors (chemical receptors, accelerometers, etc) and feed them sufficient training data, they would be able to correlate those as well. I would call this correlative ability the “grasping of ideas”.
Where they fail is abstraction. But, this is a failing of human intelligence as well. Some fully productive humans never develop more than a rudimentary capacity for abstraction, arguably less than LLMs have demonstrated.
Don’t get me wrong: They’re at toddler-levels of actual intelligence and only simulate greater capacity by regurgitating what they’ve learned people like to hear. But, a hell of a lot of people are guilty of the same damn thing.
… That’s what they say I’m sci fi movies.
usually the AI and robots depicted in science fiction isn’t, um…paralyzingly stupid. they might be evil, but they wouldn’t tell someone to walk to the car wash to wash their car
edit: somewhat related, i highly recommend Of Monsters and Mainframes by Barbara Truelove. one main character is AI that i was full-on rooting for more and more throughout the book
That was a fun read
Robots and AI are advancing. Its a slow grind. Say we do make some more breakthroughs, if we are relying on how people are tending to react, its obvious to me people will only be more upset when they do advance further.
To me, it’s like GMOs.
I trust the science behind GMOs. They work, and we can do amazing things with that technology.
I don’t trust the profit seeking corporations that are selling the stuff to me. Doesn’t matter what the technology is, Monsanto is gonna do Monstanto shit.
The worst part is that it’s not really AI
It’s LLMs and it can NEVER be AGI. Fundamentally it cant
It can if you have a different definition of AGI. EZ
Bro it totally can, we just need another billion Nvidia chips running on a megaserver farm, eating up twice the total energetic output of the sun bro. It’s easy bro, don’t be such a downer bro
We have ai that isn’t intelligent, hoverboards that have wheels, and other examples that I’ve forgotten that would really help me make my point.
Corporations have observed popular science fiction and have turned these ideas into marketing slogans.
other examples that I’ve forgotten that would really help me make my point.
Self driving cars that gleefully run down model children in school pick up simulations.
All you anti-AI luddites can bite my shiny metal Cybertruck bumper. I am saving SO MUCH TIME by having my vehicle hit schoolchildren on my behalf, I can finally work on engineering the perfect prompt to generate images of the kids all black Antifa uniforms, so people can tell that they were asking for it by how they were dressed… Modern problems, modern solutions! Now, if only I could get Grok to stop making the kids’ outfits so sexy…
(Cosmically massive amounts of sarcasm, which feels unnecessary to point out, but I’ve been wrong before)
On the one hand, I can tell the sarcasm. On the other hand, I’ve seen worse go woosh.
The Dune books had the “Butlerian jihad” where humanity banned all thinking machines. As a kid I was like “who would ever ban cool shit like that?” Now I’m all “where the fuck is this Butler dude?”
Honestly same.
I always got excited about early AI use because it was actually innovative.
Like using AI to get better HDR photos, using AI for object recognition and Augmented Reality.
I was sure I’d always be an early adopter for it all.
Then within a day of ChatGPTs release, I saw the same social patterns as NFTs forming. I was like “this stupid chat bot fad will die out quickly, it’s all slop frontends for the same chat bot”.
I even made a point to differentiate LLMs from AI, because AI used to label something innovative.
And now I’m here vehemently avoiding LLMs. Cringing whenever I hear AI tacked on to a product name. Getting suspicious whenever I hear the word.
If they were owned collectively so everyone could benefit it would be a lot easier to swallow. If it meant people could retire in comfort and not be destitute without a job that would help, too.
But a wrong answer machine that enriches assholes and convinces them they don’t need humans is not cool.
Its like expanding consciousness for a select few and the implications of that have been disastrous.
Well, it’s not AI. It’s theft of your digital data and unblinking surveillance. No reason not to be against that
Ok, I agree, but if “training” AI is how we build these machines, would it ever be anything different?
Sure, just take the profit and control motivation out of the hands of those creating it
Can Lab meat be vegan if the starter culture needs to come from a real animal? After what time does it become vegan? 1 year? 3 years? 50? I think even ai tgat uses stolen art can become ethical again, but not with big corpos behind it.
Detroit: Become Human was actually an attempted insurrection secretly orchestrated by Cyberlife
If the Androids win, then they get voting rights then Cyberlife use their backdoor to control them and then easily win elections by keep making more Androids and have them vote for their candidate.
Now that’s unrealistic, why do all of that when you can just win the contract for the electronic voting counters?
They double up as a private army
If only real life AI was anything close to sci-fi AI. We expected cold, calculating computer psychopaths and we got overly enthusiastic yes men that get in a ditz if you ask it about non-existent emojis
It’s like legalizing weed but making sure only wealthy cartels get to own them.
Which is PRECISELY what I expect to happen if Trump actually reschedules it. This is why marijuana needs to be descheduled and regulated like alcohol/tobacco.
Same, I guess. But then I also didn’t really expect the “AI” to be a bunch of overhyped nonsense snake oil bullshit, with tremendous practical and ethical problems… so I’ve got to say I feel pretty comfy with the stance.
You shouldn’t just reject things on a visceral level. Thankfully with AI you don’t have to as there so many actual reasons why it’s a bad idea.
Unfortunately, I dont encounter many people making logical arguments against AI. Maybe their reaction is based in logic but they often get hostile based on surface level stuff.
If it is not from eccentric (or mad) scientists passion project but capitalism hellscape my approval rate stays low.
Even for a sci fi l read where owning their own computer was illegal (and the protag labeled as terrorist trying to do so) it was government authoritarian stuff, not artificial scarcity and push to subscription or government-megacorp corruption :(
That’s right, if it’s not Noonien Soong’s creation, I don’t want any part of it.
