Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

  • thirdworldistWMD@lemmy.zipEnglish
    97·
    1 hour ago

    Ask yourself why they would want to separate the left

    Oh, i’m sorry, zionists are leftists now?

    Zionism is a settler-colonial ideology which its goal is establishing the state of Israel on the Palestinian’s occupied land.

    “If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? […] They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?” — David Ben-Gurion

    “You are being invited to help make history. It doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor; not Englishmen but Jews… How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial.” — Theodore Herzl draft to Cecil Rhodes

    Zionism (the belief that Israel has a right to exist) is fundamentally incompatible with leftism. Fighting with zionists isn’t left-wing infighting, it’s punching right.

    and who benefits from that.

    Leftists do. movements do not need zionist liberals muddying and diluting it until it’s meaningless. “Leftists” who believe Israel has a right to exist are right-wing, and should be fought against with extreme scrutiny.

    Calling for death to nations (and their civilians) is a call for genocide. I hope non-extremists can see that.

    big fucking emphasis on the parenthesis lmao, because nobody is doing that here. Calling for death to nations is not literal. Death to Israel does not literally mean evaporate each and every Israeli. It means dissolve the state of Israel. The people, imo, can stay. Whether hardline zionists can live without dying of bitterness in a free Palestine is not our problem, it would be their choice.

    And, you have not responded to any comments showing zionism is inherently evil, but have made snarky weak edits. Israel has no right to exist, if you don’t agree, fine, but don’t lie through your teeth and say you are anti-zionist or a leftist, because you are objectively not.

    Also, “extremist” is just a term centrists/centre liberals use to never want to change anything. No shit most leftists are “extremists”, what, you want to vote our way into socialism? lol

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