if people in power want to save children they could try and stop raping them. with all the surveillance in the world they wouldnt have prevented the epstein rapes because its never about the childrens safety its about power.
they do NOT care about children at all
That’s because snowflakes like zuck want to know who is calling him a cunt and when. Shove it your ass you sick stalker.
its a miracle how insecure rich people are you’d think they can live a life where they have their shit together and dont care what anyone thinks
It was never about “child safety”. It always was about making users more transparent, and therefore more intimidatable and controllable.
Of course. Whenever you hear that it’s to “protect the children,” you know we’re about to get screwed.
Ah so Bots and Ai shit needs to identify itself as well? Of course not, it’s just an excuse (save the children) to do more surveillence rather than helping anyone.
No thanks, I’m good.
He’s already made his money. He needs to just retire and quit fucking things up for everyone.
This is the bizarre thing. Google’s founders got out of the game back in like 2010. Why the hell is he still trying to run the show? Step out of the way and let some new creativity get involved.
Don’t forget home routers have something called parental controls.
This would put all the power of online safety back into a parents hands and maintain all privacy online for the general public and ones children as well.
I also wish I could just tell my ISP " I don’t have kids and have never once had anyone younger than 18 even connect to my wifi" and then they could just mark it to bypass these age checks.
What are you talking about? You think this is some kind of game where we all have to be responsible for ourselves, and create solutions that serve everybody? Get real!
This is Earth! Where the elite make all the rules, and those rules aren’t based on logic, or problem solving. They’re based on what will make the elite the most money!
So you bet your ass when Mark Facebook Zuckerberg pitches an idea, he’s doing so to steal your data, and figure out how to create a problem that needs fixing, which can just so happen be fixed with privacy invasion! Yaaaay! Isn’t capitolism grand?
The market has made clear how it feels about consumer freedom. Every consumer option is lost revenue to them.
Phones, tablets & computers have it too.
And to ensure that everyone has a router… everyone will be given a state issued router with personal identification that they must use.
Well, yeah. That was the plan from the start. Let’s not be the “dumb fucks” who just “trust him” with personal data this time.
Maybe we split the internet. Privacy concerned people could use something like gemini
Imagine this happening and Facebook will somehow still be an AI sloptrough.
I’m not sure that what this article is claiming follows. Your device providing a token which confirms you’re an adult doesn’t imply that your real name will be provided to anybody, any more than, say, my banking app using my phone’s FaceID implies that that app has access to my biometric data
To me, age verification on-device make the most sense precisely because it allows for it to be secure and maintaining of privacy
The alternative is providing every site with your biometric data, photos of your documents like driving license, or both. Or that there’s some random third party which you give that data to and who then stores it on some server somewhere the security of which we can only guess at
I know sind will be tempted to say that it shouldn’t be happening at all and that it’s not about protecting kids and so on. But no matter how much we say that it _ is_ happening. This is what the new reality will be. The only question is where you want the scan of your face to be stored. Personally, I’d rather it be encrypted on my device
The alternative is people actually fucking parenting and not making the internet a dystopian hellscape.
Again, we can hope for whatever. But this is going to happen. So the question becomes what the best version is. I see no better option than on-device, encrypted age verification tokens
There’s no way on-device options would work with FOSS operating systems, so if it does happen I’m SOL anyways, so wtf do I care? I’m not going back to corpo slop. If the people work together we can defeat shit like this before it happens, so why the defeatism?
Could End Anonymous Internet Access for Everyone
Don’t come over here threatening me with a good time.
Well feel free to go first, what’s your full name and address?
Yes. Give the Fart Master your social security number, and mothers maiden name.
Which you would think wouldn’t be needed if he already has your SSN…but that part isn’t about privacy breaches. Instead, he’s just looking to find your mom and take her out on a date! Fart Master is going to be your new dad!
Genuinely curious, why do you think this is a good thing?
I get it. For some reason i see this as working towards no more running 7,000 bots and influence peddling, or blatant manipulation from governments through fake accounts running “brand management” campaigns.
Too optimistic maybe to think a company being aware of one name running a ton of accounts and doing anything for humanity because of it for the better good, but I get it.
Plus creeps thrive in the darkness, selling CSAM and the gross shit American leaders do. Bitcoin for killing stuff on video, like it could stop. Those guys could be identified and put in a cellar never to hurt anyone again.
Too bad almost none of that will actually be implemented and will instead be used to target those who disagree.
Ya, its too optimistic to think it will be helping anyone besides like 50 guys.
Sure, thank you for not being a prick in your approach like everyone else.
A few reasons:
First, your private info is already out there. Either it’s hanging out on Spokeo (and you should go there, look yourself up, and request that they delete it.) or one of Google/Meta/Whatever’s servers. Thanks to the video disclosure in the Guthrie case, we know definitively that all of those cameras you have in your home and around your neighborhood are recording you and feeding the information to the government without a warrant for permanent storage. Further, providing ID is something we do for a lot of things that are appropriately age-gated already.
Secondly, and I think this is the bigger point, is the mounting evidence of detrimental effects social media is having on kids’ cognitive abilities. It affects adults too, but to a lesser extent, likely because our brains have already matured. I know schoolteachers who can’t get their kids to answer a question correctly when the answer is literally written on the dry erase board in front of them, to give one example. The other problem here is the effects on self esteem and mental health, as algorithmically-elevated content is designed to isolate, anger, and cause mental health problems, and the rise in suicide rates is evidence of that. Happy people aren’t buying every piece of shit they’re fed in their feed’s ads.
I would prefer to see the companies themselves held accountable and these algorithms made illegal, but I don’t think that will realistically happen, so age-gating via ID is, to me, the best that can be done right now, and I think it’s essential.
What’s your address and phone number? Since they’re “already out there” you can just tell me.
While I think your intent is fine, there’s no way I’d trust a for-profit company– Facebook no less– to be the gatekeeper. Their priority is and will always be to wring every possible cent out of your data/privacy. That it might align with children’s safety is coincidental at best, and in any case temporary.
TBH, I don’t trust them any further than I can throw them. If it comes to that, I’ll use an old ID with invalid info, but thankfully I don’t use Meta but maybe once a week to check work-related DM’s.
This is a lesser of two evils thing.
The answer (IMO) isn’t to succumb to their demands, it’s to cease using their platform. I promise you, you can do without Facebook (or insert any other problematic platform).
Besides, it’s not like age gating is going to prevent children from getting on under their parents ID. My kid has been trying for months to get us to use our IDs to get them full access to Roblox. My spouse might cave but for my annoying and stubborn insistence that that’s a line we do not cross.
Unfortunately, in some communities, that’s still impossible to do fully.
Hopefully that’ll change with time. I’d love to see another mass migration to federated platforms.
Inconvenient ≠ impossible.
You forgot the “/s”
