• Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    * in the US

    We currently pay something in the range of 250€ a month for after school care of our 2 kids, including lunch; full kindergarten care for both was around 500€ before in Germany.
    Funny thing though: birthrates here are dropping even worse than in the US…

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      41 minutes ago

      What are housing prices in Germany?

      I find housing is the thing that really drives down birth rates, coupled with rapid inflation that the CPI doesn’t capture.

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        $1500usd/mth for 1 kid here. Thats considered low in the US. I know people paying more than $3k.

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      The US isn’t fully industrialized and we do kind of have some protected “pre-industrial lite” style religious communities like the Amish that distort population rates and previously used high immigration rates to sustain the economy until like sept 11th 2001.

      Like the real problem is time and diversions. More diversions = less boredom = less fucking. More hours and jobs = less fucking. I’m pretty sure you can directly correlate advertising revenue with lower birth rates.

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      Are you serious?

      This shithole country I live in. We have funds to create a gestopo and ice camps here in the US and there’s no real support for new parents.

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        Comical that Republicans constantly bitch about people not getting married or having kids, then make sure there’s no way they can support said kids. Fucking dimwits

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          Wages have been falling for 50 years. If only the Democrats win, they could reverse this! Maybe someday ¯_ (ツ)_/¯

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        In many municipalities child care is even completely free of charge.
        (Only for low-income families where I live.)
        From society’s standpoint it is also a good idea to let pedagogues mentor young kids and give them social interaction with same age peers. Also best way for foreign kids to learn the German language and customs, reduces possible later social problems.

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        There’s also a lot of stupid laws that prevent like a small daycare from operating in like a suburb area. Certain types of smaller businesses should be exempt from zoning and they’re all things that are super expensive.