I left during the first Trump presidency. Best decision given the circumstances.
🙋♂️ I left in 2025. It’s great! Walkable and bikeable cities, affordable groceries, my health insurance actually pays for stuff, there’s public transit, the food is safer, and not absolutely every I do funnels into only 12 companies.
I moved my family. When my kid needs higher education, it won’t cost more than our home. I can send him out in the streets without worrying he’ll be hit by a truck going 80. Active shooter or intruder drills aren’t a phenomenon in his school.
I only wish we could have done it sooner.
Where did you move?
Netherlands
Nice! Welkom! Have fun being there, visit us sometime (Germany).
I was watching a show called Pernille the other week, takes place in Norway, and I thought her youngest daughter was 14/15. She was 12 and walking all over the place. That freedom is just something the States doesnt have. my Son is 12, if I let him walk to the store (crossing a busy 45mph+ road) the cops could get called on me.
My kid is 11 and gets to bike to school, or walk to music lessons or the store whenever. It’s pretty cool
The promised land. I’ve lived there before, and I plan on moving back some day. It’s amazing.
Nunya
Nunya, Nigeria?
Where they started Nunya Business, which is obscenely wealthy. However, there’s a fantastic opportunity where they need an enterprising foreigner like yourself to agree to handle a bank transfer processing fee and hold on to all their assets before the government takes it all and. . .
Can confirm.
If things don’t turn around soon, I don’t see any other option.
Wish I was rich enough to do the same.
You don’t need a ton of money to do so if you’re unskilled labor, and basically only a plane ticket if you’re skilled labor. Contact people in perspective countries and ask about it. Japan is great if you want to start a small business, especially if it brings in USD. Vietnam is great if you want to be a white face for an english school, China is great if you have a degree in teaching, I’ve a couple friends who went to Germany (not from the US tho) for nursing and IDK what else.
Why would you go from one dictatorship to another lol
If you meant China or Vietnam, a dictatorship of the working class is different from a dictatorship of capital.
If you meant Japan, yeah things aren’t looking great, but at least LDP is opposing the even-further-right parties?
If you meant Germany, after 5 years or so of working, you qualify for citizenship and can go elsewhere in the EU, which should be enough time to get out before AfD takes over.
I wish I could as well. I’d be out of here in a heartbeat. I’m already single, live alone, work remotely in the tech sector. It would be nothing for me to pick up and leave. It’s just not that easy to be able to move to a different country.
much easier in your circumstance, than it would be for so many of us.
I remember last time I checked, my score was only like 350 which is far below what you need to be considered for permanent residency in Canada. Canada would be my country of choice in this situation.
they count your credit score!?
No, they have a system of ranking you where they weigh all kinds of aspects of your life. Do you know French? Do you have relatives in Canada? Have you ever worked for anybody in Canada? Did you go to school in Canada? Etc. Based on these answers you get a score. I only scored a 350. I think the minimum is like 600. The highest is 1200.
I did exactly that, there’s tons of resources for digital nomads. AMA?
Boat?
I don’t even know where I would go at this point if I was picking up stakes.
It’s a little bit easier to make the decision (given the opportunity) when your country wants to genocide you and your friends.
I made the decision November 2024. No regrets, just a lot of tears and sweat
If you don’t mind sharing: where to?
If you do mind, I definitely understand.
Still no housing
Rats leaving a sinking ship
More like passengers recognizing there’s another ship that offers more to life as long as you’re ok with lower salary and higher taxes. Life seems to be better and it is.
Yeah well… You gotta be able to afford to leave…
Atlantis west is not sinking…





