By believing that anyone with enough dedication can learn something, and that many of the greats (like Mozart) just had an early interest or were pressured in something so they had a headstart.
I remember someone said that you shouldn’t be disappointed in yourself for learning the speaking/reading ability of a 9 year old in 4 years because it took 9 years for a 9 year old to learn the language lmao
I’ve seen this take a lot that anyone can master anything if they just try long enough. People cam get good at many things, but we don’t all progress at the same rate. Nature and nurture both have very important contributions to make.
There have been men who have worked at composing their whole lives who never got as good as Mozart by the time he was twenty. Maybe they didn’t try hard enough?
“Never got as good” is very very subjective though! I like Mozart’s music but popularity doesn’t always mean quality. There are albums made in the modern day that I love but are quite underappreciated by the general audience, for example… Not only that but Mozart started at a really young age that he was considered a prodigy, and his father was a composer who, after recognizing his talent, made him perform publicly and did tours then eventually performing for aristocrats, and he even started composing, and that was what consumed his childhood. Someone who “composed their whole lives” by the age of 20 to the extent that he did would be quite rare. Plus, nurture usually refers to being nurtured by a third party so why would it be about the composers not trying hard enough as if it is a personal failing? I guess those people who composed their whole lives technically didn’t try hard enough at 6 to start performing and touring across Europe to showcase their skill?
While I do not discount that nature does have a contribution, I usually would like to adress nurture first than nature. For example, the current illiteracy crisis that is gripping my country the Philippines is not because our people are inherently stupid, it’s because of a shitty education system, corruption issues and rampant poverty. The renovation that is being done to the library in our city hasn’t been finished for years! Also, I was quite lucky to have a mother who read and kept books around the house when I was very young, and also unlucky that my childhood forced me to use books as an escape and a coping mechanism because it was the only thing I had. Unfortunately some people higher up in Education would believe I am inherently smart or whatever for having C2 at CEFR at a young age or being able to beat the Spelling Bee against the more advanced sections when I came from the regular section (because of the subpar quality of education in the regular section).
Idk I have seen so many instances of people running to Nature instead of examining the Nurture and miss actual solutions to the detriment of so many people, so I have become embittered with Nature over Nurture. Oh and btw, the effect of matching the mode of instruction to your Learning Style is minimal to none when you look at the research! The actual effective style involves timely feedback and repetition as well as higher standards (education has lowered its standards over the years). See, that’s one example of a widely believed Nature over Nurture thing.
I apologize for the long rant, I have some strong feelings about education.
By believing that anyone with enough dedication can learn something, and that many of the greats (like Mozart) just had an early interest or were pressured in something so they had a headstart.
I remember someone said that you shouldn’t be disappointed in yourself for learning the speaking/reading ability of a 9 year old in 4 years because it took 9 years for a 9 year old to learn the language lmao
I’ve seen this take a lot that anyone can master anything if they just try long enough. People cam get good at many things, but we don’t all progress at the same rate. Nature and nurture both have very important contributions to make.
There have been men who have worked at composing their whole lives who never got as good as Mozart by the time he was twenty. Maybe they didn’t try hard enough?
“Never got as good” is very very subjective though! I like Mozart’s music but popularity doesn’t always mean quality. There are albums made in the modern day that I love but are quite underappreciated by the general audience, for example… Not only that but Mozart started at a really young age that he was considered a prodigy, and his father was a composer who, after recognizing his talent, made him perform publicly and did tours then eventually performing for aristocrats, and he even started composing, and that was what consumed his childhood. Someone who “composed their whole lives” by the age of 20 to the extent that he did would be quite rare. Plus, nurture usually refers to being nurtured by a third party so why would it be about the composers not trying hard enough as if it is a personal failing? I guess those people who composed their whole lives technically didn’t try hard enough at 6 to start performing and touring across Europe to showcase their skill?
While I do not discount that nature does have a contribution, I usually would like to adress nurture first than nature. For example, the current illiteracy crisis that is gripping my country the Philippines is not because our people are inherently stupid, it’s because of a shitty education system, corruption issues and rampant poverty. The renovation that is being done to the library in our city hasn’t been finished for years! Also, I was quite lucky to have a mother who read and kept books around the house when I was very young, and also unlucky that my childhood forced me to use books as an escape and a coping mechanism because it was the only thing I had. Unfortunately some people higher up in Education would believe I am inherently smart or whatever for having C2 at CEFR at a young age or being able to beat the Spelling Bee against the more advanced sections when I came from the regular section (because of the subpar quality of education in the regular section).
Idk I have seen so many instances of people running to Nature instead of examining the Nurture and miss actual solutions to the detriment of so many people, so I have become embittered with Nature over Nurture. Oh and btw, the effect of matching the mode of instruction to your Learning Style is minimal to none when you look at the research! The actual effective style involves timely feedback and repetition as well as higher standards (education has lowered its standards over the years). See, that’s one example of a widely believed Nature over Nurture thing.
I apologize for the long rant, I have some strong feelings about education.