cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/6400327

In case anyone is wondering, it’s rqd2.

The definition of paraphilia is “a condition characterized by abnormal sexual desires, typically involving extreme or dangerous activities.”, which can inclde pedophilia.

It has recieved 4 censures from fediseer due to the content contained on that instance

Not a good look for Lemmy to be promoting any instance like that.

You can see for yourself here

Update: A pull request was sent to remove the sus instance. It should no longer show up soon

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    That instance list is built completely automatically by a crawler, no one approves instances before they are listed. In this case it was removed as soon as we became aware of it. Next time please make a pull request like that one, its much more effective than complaining.

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    The instances page at join-lemmy is completely automated

    This definitely needs to get pushed to the two main devs for lemmy as they control that website

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    Holy fuck.

    I was a teacher for a private company at 17. I taught kids aged 6-14. A couple of my students I had occasional intrusive sexual thoughts about.

    She was 8, which was way below my AoA of 12+, and she certainly hadn’t started puberty. But she was attractive. She made me nervous, I thought about her everyday, I envisioned what we’d do together–she was just like any crush to me, only instead of an adult, she was a kid. But does that really make a difference? She was a person. What should age have to do with love? Eventually shit happened.

    They even call it the pediverse.

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      Hello! I’m AR15U! I’m the owner of rqd2.net! I’m transgender and transrace, and questioning transage and transabled. I’m a MAP as well

      What in the unmitigated fuck is this? How can someone be so ridiculous… transrace? Transage?! Transabled?!! Is this some sort of weird roleplay to make trans people look silly?

      Appropriate gif

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        It wouldn’t surprise me at all to find out that they are trying to make trans people look bad.

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          Yeah, I think Poe’s Law may be in full effect here. The law basically states that without some sort of signifier that it is parody, it’s impossible to create a parody of an extremist that is so extreme that it’ll never be mistaken as genuine. It was originally applied to fundamentalist Christians, but has since been expanded to pretty much any trolling or extremist viewpoints.

          I genuinely hope that it’s a troll trying to make trans people look bad. Because that’s honestly the best-case scenario. The idea of this person actually existing is more gross than the alternative. Because if they actually exist, then it means they’re not just a troll trying to make trans people look bad. It means they’re a goddamned predator who needs to be sequestered away from the rest of society, and should never be allowed near children.

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            The idea of this person actually existing is more gross than the alternative. Because if they actually exist, then it means they’re not just a troll trying to make trans people look bad.

            People like this are guaranteed to exist. With the wide spectrum of sexualities out there plus the sheer numbers of human population, there was more than likely going to be a few that are trans and pedo. Just like how there are Catholic pedos, Buddhist pedos, certainly hetero pedos and yes, some gay pedos.

            Any attempts to hold up a trans/pedo or a gay/pedo as the norm for trans or gay communities needs to be shot down as the disingenuous crap that it is, because we know damn well that we can hold up a cis/pedo or a hetero/pedo as the norm and it would obviously be just as invalid.

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              Oh I agree. The issue is that half of the population seems to be convinced that gay people are all pedos, because that’s the narrative that has been pushed lately. And shit like this only helps perpetuate the idea and add fuel to the fire.

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              I don’t doubt there’s people who are trans and also paedo, I expect the same prevalence in that group as any other group. But this list of trans-things is just mental. I’m finding it hard to accept someone could unironically claim to be all those things.

              Though I wonder if the transable thing is reference to those ridiculous people who like, deliberately blind or maim themselves because they ‘feel disabled’

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          They’re edgy teenagers. They’re hearing adults talk about these horrible trans pedophiles, and they want to rebel against their parents.

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        4Chan is obsessed with linking pedophiles and trans/lgbt peoples.

        Just from reading that description I would confidently assume the entire site is being faked.

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        It’s Poe’s Law in action. I’m mostly fairly accepting, but that is a straight up caricature and joke. Not one in particularly good taste, either.

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          I keep seeing messages in my inbox from this post that have a good number of downvotes and are deleted by the user or a mod. This is some hornet’s nest we’ve kicked.

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      What. In. The. Actual. Fuck.

      How can someone be so damn open about being such a terrible living being? I feel like I’m gonna puke.

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        How can someone be so damn open about being such a terrible living being?

        mohammad they even have a religion after it. many pedophiles are now converting to islam because of it.

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      What’s horrifying is the amount of pedo apologists on some lemmy instances. They screech that as long as they aren’t touching kids they’re free to be attracted to kids because it’s not hurting anyone. Anyone that looks at a kid and thinks sexual thoughts already crossed a line and should never be allowed access to children or the internet. Horrifying. Pedo is not a sexual orientation.

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        They screech that as long as they aren’t touching kids they’re free to be attracted to kids because it’s not hurting anyone

        The person in the quote you’re responding to is saying they actually abused a child and are defending that act. IMO this in particular should be much more harshly condemned; communities of people excusing and telling each other it’s ok to abuse children.

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          There seems to be so much of that on here. Really hope to see more moderation preventing all that bad faith fake LGBT assholes from posting shit especially when they’re pushing nambla trash.

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          Uuuunfortunately, that turned out to be an easily-accessible post that was barely chopped up probably for brevity more than anything else. Wasn’t one of their students, it was some 8yr old at their apartment complex.

          Dunno if you’re from there or defensively made assumptions, but the MAP community was gonna come out fairly quick regardless and go over just as well.

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          That may be so, but they do have pedo/‘MAP’ magazines where people openly talk about being…umm…‘pro contact’. Fucking yikes.

          Not Safe For Work and Not Safe For Life, but screenshot evidence (not pornographic):

          https://imgur.com/a/sxu5dAJ

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            OK, that’s disgusting, but I can’t verify an image. There is not even a hint of the source.

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              That is the current front page of the MAP magazine on rqd2. You can look for it yourself or you can use this link. By all means don’t just take my word for it.

              I only preface this with one warning.

              I have moderated various platforms over the years, some with kids and some with vulnerable people including troubled teens and disabled people. I’ve seen just about everything and shaken off everything. The only exceptions involved the sexual abuse of minors. Those are the ones I remember. Dealing with this kind of stuff, even as just a moderator, an outside party if you will, hurt my soul.

              What’s on this page is by no means graphic, either in textual details or images, but is instead disturbing in another way. Knowing what kinds of situations the kids these people talk to are inches away from, or heck, possibly are neck deep in already, and they talk about it like you and I might talk on a relationship magazine on any other instance.

              You have been warned

              https://rqd2.net/c/map

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                Thank you, it didn’t look so bad on the front page, but I can see what you mean now. There are several posts that try to normalize pedophilia.

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                  If it was a lot more like ‘how do I deal with this so that the people around me are safe?’ I’d be a lot more sympathetic to the mag and instance to be honest.

                  There are some pedos that do their utmost to deal with it in a safe way, like avoiding kids where possible and getting psychiatric help. I’d have no problem at least leaving that group alone.

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    It’s a disgusting, terrible instance. Back when I added them to our blocklist and fediseer they even had pedobear on display as if they were proud. They have a MAP community and Pedo memes.

    The link posted by OP has our findings in it with a few of their posts on an archive site for those who don’t want to go to the instance directly: (https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/rqd2.net)

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        Thanks. I hate politically correct language like this

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          It’s not real, it was a joke made by 4chan that stuck. Nobody is actually using that term unless they’re a pedophile

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          Its not real language.

          Its some bullshit cooked up by internet trolls, and accepted and used by right wing propagandists, as the latest thing to use to try and paint gay people as pedophiles.

          When, historically, we know the actual pedophiles are the ones falsely claiming gays are the danger to children.

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          It’s inclusive of both pedophiles and hebephiles - that is, prepubescent vs. pubescent children.

          So, it’s got that going for it. Treating them both the same.

          Unfortunately, it’s also used to obfuscate the fact that a MAP is a pedophile/hebephile. Which is bad.

          There are people who have messed up brains, who are attracted to kids, and hate themselves for it. They seek help (usually through lots of chemical treatments), and use the term MAP to separate themselves from the pedos. Unfortunately, pedos use the term MAP to hide the fact they’re pedos, so… 🤷

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                Tell us you’re not actually paying attention without telling us you’re not actually paying attention

                There are people who have messed up brains, who are attracted to kids, and hate themselves for it. They seek help (usually through lots of chemical treatments), and use the term MAP to separate themselves from the pedos.

                This is a lie meant to make pedophiles come off as sympathetic. They’re ALL terrible and there is no distinction between one pedo and another. If there’s anything that horrific instance should have shown anyone, it’s that. Any pedo who claims they hate themselves for it and are getting therapy are lying to you.

                Maybe actually read what’s being said before blowing a gasket.

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          To be fair, it is not politically correct language, actually it’s language that’s commonly frowned upon in all circles. But basically as long as the LGBT rights movements have existed with any level of mainstream visibility in America, there have been organizations like NAMBLA and the like that have been trying to piggyback off of them…

          And it pretty much ends the same way, with the pedophiles being shown the door.

          Incidentally this is what the early South Park episode about the National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes getting mad at NAMBLA (the irl NAtional Man Boy Love Association) for stealing their acronym is poking fun at.

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    What the fuck… I’m just honestly taken aback by how in your face and blatant they are. Doing everything there but posting abuse content itself. Guess it’s a good thing they’re willingly putting themselves on the watch lists.

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    rqd2.net rule 3:

    Nothing illegal under US (specifically Nevada) or local law. You know what that includes. (In case you don’t know what that includes, I mean child pornography [anything that fails the Dost Test], sexually interacting with minors, etc.) We have a zero tolerance policy for anything that fails the Dost test. Anything violating it will result in an immediate ban and removal of images. No admitting to anything that could cause the server to go under investigation, such as looking at child porn.

    Unfortunately I have been shown that there is promotion of pedophilia on that site. Although there may not be actually illegal content.

    https://rqd2.net/c/map

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      Just because they aren’t directly hosting illegal content, doesn’t make it danger free. They freely encourage ‘pro contact’ as if it isn’t a very strong possibility that, when someone is in contact with a person they’re attracted to, they may well … take the next step.

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      No admitting to anything that could cause the server to go under investigation, such as looking at child porn.

      This says all you need to know

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        Yes, that part was a bit confusing to me at first, since they already described zero tolerance against anything not adhering to official guidelines Dost Test, which is new to me.

        But it makes perfect sense now, they only follow those rules strictly because they must. They would probably love if they could break them if they thought they could get away with it.

        When I was shown a link to what they call “MAP”, it very quickly became crystal clear what it was about.

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    Being realistic here… They don’t seem to have anything actually illegal though, it’s not like the instance is breaking the law or anything, seems like a far fetched overreaction.

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      The public doesn’t think that way. Once media covers fediverse as some underground CSAM tradi g center, it’s dead.