fuck cars
sigh
zip
right in the exhaust pipe 😩
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It’s so crazy that the 144 month term is only barely an exaggeration.
It’s not
You can finance a Maserati today for 180 months.
Woodside Payment: $2,395 for 180 month term
The tilde is so out of place but is it?
I love how the 12² isn’t explained, so it’s really just 144 months of payments.
Toss in the all-weather floor mats and you got a deal.
It’s long been known most of the microplastics come from tires and clothing.
The stuff from tires is in the air and the environment as road run off and the stuff from clothing is in the water from washing it.
This is where legislation is required, to start limiting tire dangerous particles emissions. 🤷♂️
EU7 will take particle emissions from tires and brakes into account.
What account though, do you have more info?
I wonder what those limits will be, how much big tire and big breaking will lobby. I’d like to also see sticker on tires (like the ones we have for energy) or at least clear data on datasheets.
Mission accomplished.
Or we can just use publicly accessible information to find out who’s making these products and correct there.
I’d assume that all tires are more or less culprit - but yes, if better and worst tires are exposed, it’d be good.
*urban microplastics (because most nano- and microplastics released into the environment come from commercial fishing by far)
We need trains so bad
While I agree with you, particularly in urban areas where it’s easy for transit to make sense, I do still think we need solutions for people not living near cities too. Makes me wonder if there’s any tire technology out there to be developed that would either shed a lot less plastic, or maybe not even contain plastics.
Inb4 “lighter cars” or “just walk”, yeah I know, and I already drive a wagon rather than an SUV, to min/max size versus practicality, and I usually try to walk to town unless I need to carry something heavy or the weather is particularly shit, but there’s a ton of times where I need to go on a long drive, sometimes through multiple urban areas (that now get polluted with my microplastics), and public transit offers me no solution, or the solution is to at least double or triple the time taken by my already long drive. I’m eventually moving from diesel to electric to cut down on my exhaust pollution, but I’d also like there to be something that people like myself can do about the microplastics. Not because I think me alone doing something would change something, but because once something exists, it can be mandated by the EU or local governments.
not living near cities
Fewer cars, more green-space in the countryside, so not a huge worry. Cities should really focus on public transit; it fixes so many problems, no more drinking and driving, freeway congestion, traffic accidents, cost of owning car.
There was this chapter in an XKCD book talking about where does tire particles goes. From memory, it said “there are many answers to that question and none of them are good”.
So, there is plastic in our rubber tires? Interesting. Can we call it plas-rubber then and sound all futuristic at least?!
I don’t think we’ve used tree rubber in our car rubbers in a long time
Correct, it’s all been synthetic for a long, long time. And for what that’s worth, even if there were enough sources of natural latex in the world to support the global tire industry, we’d still have problems. In both cases, polymers are stabilized with sulfur in a process called vulcanization. I’m mostly sure that’s why tires don’t decompose under natural conditions.
People are working on it though: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11041115/
I love cars. I also wish my city had realistic public transport options that worked for my commute.
Trains are the real solution.
Bro-dozer pickups weighing 9000+ pounds are the biggest problem.
This isn’t a hard problem to solve technicaly… it’s just a social problem.
Vehicles are now over weight and over powered. Laws could fix this. No one needs a 4000lb car with 600hp.
Legislative really. It all goes back to the Chicken Tax.
It has a lot to do with the supersizing of vehicles for sure.
Which tracks with the super sizing of asses.
Weirdly, electric cars are also worse for tire abrasion since they tend to be heavier. Trains and electric bikes (in cities) seems like a good way to go
Heavier, and they generate a lot of instant torque. Small EVs don’t have this issue.
so, what alternative do we have to plastic tires? do we just go back to using extract from the rubber tree?
Reducing the use of cars would help.
If only there was a way
Steel tyres. They’d also look better!
Metal would wear out too fast on asphalt/concrete though. What if we used metal tyres on metal roads? Less friction, less abrasion! It’d be expensive though to replace the whole road. Maybe just a pair of strips the same width as the tyre spacing. Cars could even connect to each other to reduce aerodynamic drag… Nah, would never work
Cars that fly above the road
I don’t trust normal drivers, you really trust people to fly their cars safely?
I’m not talking about full blown flying. Just hover above the road a few feet.
Yeah, there was a video a little while back that said that one of the only real sets of tyres that are pure rubber these days are plane tyres because of the huge strain put on them as soon as touchdown is made.
Urban air problems are many, so it’s better to not live in an Urb
For your health!
I live on the bleeding edge of a small town. This is reason #476 why I’ll never live in a city again.
Yep, it’s great to have room to breathe and do what you want, and still have a reasonable access to basic stuff nearby like groceries, general supplies. In the old days, living outside the city meant that it was hard to get anything that’s not common, boring, or basic. You’d have to drive to a Big City to get any kind of unusual stuff like skateboards or guitars. But we have online shopping now and you can get anything you want shipped to your doorstep, so I have no need for the city.
working to get food is also good for my health so i’ll keep living in the urb for the foreseeable future
“Jobs only exist in big cities” because no one else outside of cities is able to make a living… all areas other than cities must therefore be uninhabited
you know what happens when more people live together in one place and there are enough jobs for all the people living there? it becomes a city (it doesn’t need to be big, it only needs a lot of cars)
For real though I seriously wonder.
Outside of the bigger cities I’ve lived it’s like, people are working fast food or gas stations and other service labor or like, really niche stuff like oil industry (yuck), or some other industrial or farming occupations.
I know lots of people live in rural areas, dunno how many commute or how far, and I always was just like “Okay but what does everybody do?!”
I wouldn’t mind living somewhere less dense-urban, but geeze, I feel like it’d be even harder to find a fit than in the city, and it feels like it’d be a trap where you couldn’t make enough to move away.
I’d love to be wrong, assuming we’re not talking about the top 10% of programmers that have a lucrative telecommute contract via starlink or some crap lol.
Like stuff an average person is capable of without requiring a ridiculous amount of luck or extremely niche in-demand education.
Generally people commute to jobs within a reasonable distance, from where they live if they can’t find a nearby job that’s good enough.
For example if you lived in the area of Edinburg, Illinois (population about 1000) you would have the jobs listed here available within 35 miles: https://www.indeed.com/l-edinburg,-il-jobs.html
In a semi-rural area like that, it’s only going to take you about 30 minutes to drive 30 miles on highways. It’s not like driving through 30 miles of city. It’s common for rural folks to have a 30 minute to 1 hour daily commute to work.
Remote work is really what’s best though.
Wouldn’t tire abrasion be rubber?
Most vehicle tyres have moved a way from entirely rubber construction a while ago and will contain multiple additives such as polymers to improve performance, lifespan etc.
Some may even be made entirely of synthetic rubber but I don’t know if they are widely used or at all.
that’s my thought: would moving back to pure rubber solve the microplastic problem?
I suspect there isn’t enough natural rubber supply in the world for our needs.
I bet the people that did this research will be surprised to hear that I already knew this ages ago…
Well, let’s cancel all research and just go off of what seems right then. That’ll make everything better.
no, lobbying needs to be eliminated. all the big [insert industry here] execs have been shown repeatedly to have known about the harm their industry does way before it ever reaches public ears where it quickly gets dismissed bfor one reason or another
and just go off of what seems right then. That’ll make everything better.
I don’t want to freak anyone out but if you mix beer before grass, well you’re gonna end up on your ass.
After years of conducting research and many regrets, my theory is that the sedative effect of the alcohol makes it easier to take a much bigger hit than you realize.
And something about the blood chemistry with the sudden rush of THC when your BAC is already elevated likely has something to do with it too. Versus the other way around, where getting stoned doesn’t really make you take bigger gulps, and the THC level is already stable when your BAC gradually increases, so it doesn’t knock you on your ass the same way.
Ah, but grass before beer, you’re insxhlopubestear!
I bet they did as well, but outside of Donald Trump’s America, most of the world still operates on empirical evidence so the more things are studied, the better.
E.g yes we already knew that tires shed a lot of microplastics, but now that we know that the majority of urban microplastic pollution is from tires specifically, it’s easier for governments to push through either a ban on cars in certain areas, or weight limits, or heavily weight-based taxation (heavier cars = more tire wear), or something else.
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