• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    8 hours ago

    there are people feeling the conflict between their oath and their orders

    And I’m saying that their oath will ultimately lose that “conflict,” because nobody gives a shit about constitutions when it comes down to it. They’re certainly not going to risk a court martial or a dishonorable discharge for the constitution. There might be something that will get them to do… whatever it is you want them to do (what are you expecting here exactly) but appeals to their oaths and the constitution ain’t it. You can’t reject imperialism without rejecting what it means to be a US soldier.

    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      And I’m saying that their oath will ultimately lose that “conflict,” because nobody gives a shit about constitutions when it comes down to it. They’re certainly not going to risk a court martial or a dishonorable discharge for the constitution.

      For the vast majority, yes. Again though, we need only a single one.

      There might be something that will get them to do… whatever it is you want them to do (what are you expecting here exactly)

      I’m not a tactical expert - the ‘how’ is on them. I expect they’d engage him the same as any other enemy of the US, but I’m not about to tell them how to do their job - just to actually do their job.

      You can’t reject imperialism without rejecting what it means to be a US soldier.

      Strongly disagree. What it actually means to be a soldier vs the ideal that the individual soldier joined for will vary from one soldier to another: the ones I’m addressing are those who fell for the propaganda and joined under the belief that they’re accomplishing some good. Being duped doesn’t make them irredeemable.

      And yeah, the utter silence from them thus far is pretty damning, but even if encouraging them to do the right thing is a waste of time, demonizing them isn’t going to accomplish anything either… So between the two, why not push them to break out of whatever it is that’s holding them back? If it fails it fails, but we might as well try.