• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    As a reminder to our troops, you swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all threats, foreign and domestic.

    Right now y’all are just blindly following the domestic threat’s orders. This has cost us the lives of seven servicemembers so far in this conflict alone. They didn’t die defending our country, they didn’t die upholding US interests, they died to help distract the country from Donald Trump raping children on Epstein’s island.

    You are oath-bound to put a stop to this shit. Do what’s right, not what’s easy - Trump will cast your brothers and sisters into the fire until he’s stopped.

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      8 hours ago

      Expecting decency from the US military is a fool’s errand. If they had a decent bone in their body they wouldn’t join the US military (besides, any such decency would’ve been beaten out of them a long time ago). There’s no reason to believe these guys have any more respect for human lives than the folks who invaded Iraq or Afghanistan, and nobody actually gives a shit about constitutions when it comes down to it.

      Death to America.

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        Propaganda’s a hell of a drug. We’re raised under the belief that we’re surrounded by aggressors, and that military personnel are some kind of heroic defender: that joining is an act of service and altruism.

        It’s bullshit, and people join for a lot of shitty reasons too, but to say there’s no decent people in the military is incorrect. Even if they’re a minority, there are people feeling the conflict between their oath and their orders: those people are potential allies, and should be encouraged to step up.

        Demonizing them is counterproductive, even if encouraging them has been fruitless thus far. All we need is for a single one of them to take their oath seriously.

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          there are people feeling the conflict between their oath and their orders

          And I’m saying that their oath will ultimately lose that “conflict,” because nobody gives a shit about constitutions when it comes down to it. They’re certainly not going to risk a court martial or a dishonorable discharge for the constitution. There might be something that will get them to do… whatever it is you want them to do (what are you expecting here exactly) but appeals to their oaths and the constitution ain’t it. You can’t reject imperialism without rejecting what it means to be a US soldier.

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            And I’m saying that their oath will ultimately lose that “conflict,” because nobody gives a shit about constitutions when it comes down to it. They’re certainly not going to risk a court martial or a dishonorable discharge for the constitution.

            For the vast majority, yes. Again though, we need only a single one.

            There might be something that will get them to do… whatever it is you want them to do (what are you expecting here exactly)

            I’m not a tactical expert - the ‘how’ is on them. I expect they’d engage him the same as any other enemy of the US, but I’m not about to tell them how to do their job - just to actually do their job.

            You can’t reject imperialism without rejecting what it means to be a US soldier.

            Strongly disagree. What it actually means to be a soldier vs the ideal that the individual soldier joined for will vary from one soldier to another: the ones I’m addressing are those who fell for the propaganda and joined under the belief that they’re accomplishing some good. Being duped doesn’t make them irredeemable.

            And yeah, the utter silence from them thus far is pretty damning, but even if encouraging them to do the right thing is a waste of time, demonizing them isn’t going to accomplish anything either… So between the two, why not push them to break out of whatever it is that’s holding them back? If it fails it fails, but we might as well try.