Context: in classical Greece, Sparta built a hegemony based on its military power that was formed around a core of professional hoplites, which was rare at the time as most military campaigns were fought by part time soldiers who were mainly farmers, handymen, etc.
This hegemony was broken when in Thebes the Sacred Band of Thebes was formed, consisting of 150 gay couples who became professional soldiers, too. These 300 (coincidence? Idk, but I find it funny) elite warriors were instrumental in two major defeats an outnumbered thebian army handed to Spartans who encountered another professional military for the first time.
The Sacred Band being made up of gay couples was intentional, as the idea behind it was that men would fight harder for and with other men they had a strong bond with and there was no stronger bond than love.
Idolizing spartan warrior culture is widespread among “alpha males” and the manosphere. Another funny irony that followers and propagators of such a homophobic idiology idolize a culture that was defeated by an explicitly gay warrior unit.
Bonus fact: there was a lot of homosexuality in the Spartan armies too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece
If Andrew Tate is such a tough guy, why is he so focused on women? A real alpha male would go after strong men, not like those pussy loving straight guys.
The Spartans were also gay.
Well its not gay if youre on top, according to sources at the time. Giving a fucking was manly, but taking a fucking was feminine.
all that tradition, destroyed by one innovation:
THE POWER BOTTOM
I think that was Rome?
Rome came much later.
The mindset is actually still alive today. A lot of central and south american countries still have this mindset due to Portuguese and Spanish influence over the centuries. I watched a documentary years back talking about the history and origins of machismo in Latin culture.
Simpler times
Like they would accept historical facts and not the bullshit they make up on the spot.
when when
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Yeah, I know. I put those words there.
“ALPHA MALES”
WHEN WHENTHEY’RE TOLD THEIR FANTASY SPARTAN ROLEMODELS WHERE DEFEATED BY A UNIT OF ELITE GAY WARRIORSIt’s a boomer inspired meme that is now viral. They think it’s funny. Ignore it.
well, explaining jokes makes them more funny
so maybe they’ll appreciate me pointing this
this out
Yes I know. I put that meme in there on purpose.
So why ? the comment that noticed it?
I wasn’t sure they got the meme or thought this was an accident and I didn’t want to be too in the nose, so I wanted to drag this out a little to be sure.
mission accomplished
" Unit"
Yes, the Sacred Band of Thebes was a military unit.
Fabulous
Where defeated?
There, defeated! There, castle!
Dang, missed that.
What’s manlier then two men? Besides increasing multiples of men, of course.
There is more:
by Plutarch’s account, this included sexual violence by hēbōntes against paides,[2] while Xenophon says the relationships were widely but wrongly considered to be sexual.
Wait until they find out about the Spartans.
OH DEAR
The Spartans were all gay or bi too.
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What’s biblical about gay lovers/couples from the fourth century BCE, four hundred years before the christianisation of Greece even began?
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Nah, don’t remove it. It’s a joke that didn’t land, that happens and it’s fine. I’m happy you got an additional laugh out of this.
