• owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca
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    28 days ago

    There’s no objective reason that this is wrong, but still, take that shit far far away from me

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      Doesn’t it fuck up the binding? Sure, a softback is still going to stay together in the immediate term, but the covers are almost always a single stronger piece, whereas the pages will now be free to work loose from the cut side.

      So… I’d say it is objectively worse.

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        It doesn’t need to stay together for a lifetime, the person only cares about it staying together for a few days till they’re done reading the section, after which it gets disposed of. This makes it much easier for them to actually read it, which means it’s objectively way better.

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          You…buy a book and then throw it away after you read it? Anyone does that?

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            28 days ago

            In the movie My Blue Heaven, Steve Martin had a trunk full of the same (stolen) book and his excuse was “in case I want to read it more than once.”

            I’ve heard there are PACs or whatever that buy thousands of copies of politicians books so they become best sellers. Does anyone know where the physical copies actually end up?

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            28 days ago

            I don’t, but plenty of people do, and it’s entirely fine if that’s how they want to read

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              Well no it’s not entirely fine, it’s actually incredibly wasteful. Get a fucking library card if you don’t want to own, gift, or resell the books you read. That’s the Generic You of course.

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          28 days ago

          Actively making things worse because you have a shitty consumerist disposable product fetish actively makes the world worse.

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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      28 days ago

      Infinite Jest has extensive footnotes, which are at the back of the book. Some of them are 12 pages long and contain multiple subplots and plot points and gives history and context to how and why the Infinite Jest of the book is so deadly.

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        Holy shit I totally forgot about that. I’ve been meaning to reread for years now but haven’t felt ready lol. I loved it but got to the end and was like, wait, what? I thought this was going to wrap back around to the beginning. Am I too dumb for this book?

        There was so many parts of that book that pop into my head randomly. I can hardly brush my teeth without thinking of Pemulis(sp?) passing out, and directly proper use of, floss after dinner at the Incandenzas (sp?). Tennis always had me thinking about it. Punts in football too. Selfie filters (the masks everyone starting having in their house for video calls.

        E: oh, and nevermind infinite scroll and the basis of the plot

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          27 days ago

          I think a lot about the guy who is scared aliens are trying to steal your thoughts with magnets and so they give him an MRI

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            27 days ago

            The whole missile warfare game the tennis kids play was wild.

            And for some reason, Hal laying on the floor imagining the amount of food he eats in a year filling the room and just being nauseous about it (I think he was also dealing with quitting the Bob Hope), really got into my head.

            Man, I came across DFW when I was sitting in a very boring seminar at University of Illinois with my first smartphone in hand, enjoying the new ability to find something else to learn about while stuck there. No idea how exactly I came across it, but I read how cruise ship article and loved it. Started reading about him and was like, oh, this guy group up right here. And his parents are still here. It really caught my attention (again, boring seminar) and I was excited to read his stuff. I must have read some interviews of him or something.

            Hit me hard when I learned of his suicide. Such a chilling feeling when a good communicator, like one that is able to capture parts of your inner monologue so well, through writing, speaking, of music, takes their own life.

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        27 days ago

        I am completely fine with cutting Infinite Jest in half, or in thirds, or just throw the fucking thing in a wood chipper.

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    That’s just wrong. If you’re worried about portability get an e-reader, don’t butcher up works of art.

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    28 days ago

    this is so wrong.

    you’re supposed to cut them in half so you can fit each side in the pockets of your cargo shorts.

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      That’s why I cut mine in half through the middle of the cover; top and bottom halves. Sure, makes it a little harder to read, but worth it when I can fit each half in my pockets perfectly.

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        ‘The Idiot’ was originally intended to be a two-part film with a running time of 265 minutes. After a single, poorly received, screening of the full-length version, the film was severely cut at the request of the studio. This was against Kurosawa’s wishes. When the re-edited version was also deemed too long by the studio, Kurosawa suggested the film be cut lengthwise instead.

        According to Japanese film scholar Donald Richie, there are no existing prints of the original 265-minute version.

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          Fuck that. Damn I would have watched that. Was it based on Dostoevsky or something else entirely? Imagine a master putting that much effort into a work of art, and then have it cut and chipped away at until there’s nothing left…

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            Based on Dostoyevsky’s novel, yes, and apparently the film was close to it. I’ve watched the existing version — it’s tolerable, although the physical quality of the film makes it a somewhat challenging experience. The gist of the story is pretty clear. To my shame, I haven’t read the novel, so idk what is lost compared to it.

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        28 days ago

        You should cut them into four pieces like me so you can rearrange them to get multiple different stories for the price of one book!

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    Clearly this is someone who actually reads their books. Given that they are mass market paperbacks… I have no problem with this. If I were an author I would much rather someone does this to my work and actually reads it and enjoys it to someone keeping a pristine copy unopened on their shelf forever.

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      28 days ago

      infinite jest is half footnotes, which are at the back of the book, which is part of the “joke” of the book, being based around extreme academia.

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    27 days ago

    “yeah, I just finished Infinite. It was pretty good, abrupt ending though. I hear Jest picks up right where it left off.”

  • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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    last year I’ve allowed myself to do marginalia, to allow me to write notes and whatever I want on the books I read while I read. it’s inherently destructive, but it changes the whole experience. reading is no longer a passive activity but a conversation with the material. and I love it.

    but felt guilty about doing irreversible changes to the book. then this shit shows up.

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      It’s destructive but it’s also constructive. That conversation with the material gives future owners new perspectives. At least in my opinion as someone who collects old subcultural texts. Notes in the margins adds to the experience of an old book

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      Since I turned 30 I write in the margins of books I read. The better the book is the more notes. Its much more engaging.

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      Almost all of my books are thrifted, which gives me the luxury of no guilt. And I get to argue with previous marginalia, which is fun because they can’t respond.

      This is kinda how books worked throughout most of medieval history. Paper was expensive and anyway, the margins often become teaching tools in and of themselves. It becomes a centuries long comment section, so ideas get passed down and develop through the centuries. Like one of the most important books of medieval philosophy that probably no one without a doctoral in theology gives a shit about is Peter Lombard’s Sentences which is just a collection of common comments people in about books that he thought were good for teaching. (I have been working on implementing a HTML cross reference version of it using Twine, and have been trying to parse [pun intended] a theological discussion about what it means to enjoy not use god. Larger project is to recreate an accessible “medieval curriculum” through Twine)

      As much as I’d fantasize about all my books preserved as a library, they’ll probably be separated from each other someday. The least I can do is put my soul in them - tuck a pamphlet or bookmark, a movie ticket. I’ve never been unhappy seeing a comment in a book - I was reading a 60 year old middle school text recently, and discovered a kid had wrote “[clearly female name] is a MAGGOT F_GGOT!!!” which was just so fucking hilarious.

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    It’s a mass-produced book, and a paperback at that. You can certainly keep any such book in good condition to archive or re-read on your own terms. But that stack of acid-paper and cheap glue is going to eventually self-destruct. Unless it’s a limited production run, in danger of getting burned, autographed, is an actual collectable, or something else that makes it distinct or valuable, I say: go for it.

    Source: I own a stack of these from back in the day. Despite my best efforts to store them appropriately, they’re all slowly rotting away. Some things just aren’t meant to last.

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      When you get right down to it, that’s true for everything. Everything self-destructs eventually. So, that seems like a strange reason to destroy it prematurely.

      Of course, if it’s your book, you can do whatever you want with it. It just seems needlessly wasteful.

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      had this occur with my first copy of ninjas and superspies and ended up punching holes in it and putting it in a 3 ring binder. the binding - and slimness of the book so it had a thin spine - wasn’t meant to lay open.