Donald Trump entered his war of choice against Iran without consulting global allies, but as he weighs an exit from the conflict, he is making it clear that he is expecting the world to help him fix the unintended damage that it has caused.

Trump is taking an increasingly annoyed tone toward Europe’s lack of support for the U.S.-Israeli war effort. He also is giving short shrift to the fact that his decision contributed to disrupting the flow of oil to global markets through the crucial Strait of Hormuz, which Iran has managed to largely choke off even as Trump insists that Iran has been “decimated.”

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    If he announces Iran has been decimated an eleventh time, then we’ll know he’s lying.

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      Iran seem to have LOST the propaganda war…in the United States.

      The rest of the world knows what’s really going on.

      America…so far behind it thinks it’s ahead.

      World War Greed

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        Iran seem to have LOST the propaganda war…in the United States.

        Say what?

        Anecdotally, go look at the YouTube comments for any video related to Iran, their 80% against it.

        Even on local news videos, where everyone generally supports the death penalty for petty theft or aggravated liberalism.

        Even if those are bots, they’re still proof positive that the propaganda war has not been won by the pro-war factions.

        And when it was actually polled, 60% of Americans opposed the war on its first week and wars don’t get more popular over time.

        MAGA and the GOP broadly support it, which is about 1/3 or the country, but that’s a lost cause.

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        Lost according to who? Everyone I’ve talked to here in the US knows that America is getting its ass kicked and they’re all pointing to trumps TACO train.

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            Oh it’s been long known that MSM is nothing more than a government mouthpiece at this time, and luckily most people I personally know, know that and know better. You’ll always get people who fall for the propaganda

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              Yes, you and I know that.

              I stopped going to the local gym BECAUSE they have Fox on the TV WITH the sound up. I get these buffed out dudes stomping back and forth in front of the TV getting madder and madder. I don’t even dare trying to talk to them. Their brain is “clean”.

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          Everyone I’ve talked to This is a thing called confirmation bias. It is highly likely that you surround yourself with people who have a mindset similar to you. Of course they will agree with your standpoint.

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    Trump literally said yesterday though that the Strait of Hormuz isn’t necessary to secure, so why would we need Europe to help with it?

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    The Narcissist’s Prayer:

    “That didn’t happen.”

    “And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.”

    “And if it was, that’s not a big deal.”

    “And if it is, that’s not my fault.”

    “And if it was, I didn’t mean it.”

    “And if I did, you deserved it.”

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    Oil was flowing through the Strait fine without US help. Now look at what they did.

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    Apparently the EU isn’t as willing to jump to the aid of a pedophile as America’s own technocrats are.

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    “Do what I want or I’ll hurt you.” I wonder how many little girls he said that to before he raped them. Ya know, cuz he’s a fucking pedophile and Americans put him in the White House and are keeping him there with the backing of the entire GOP.

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    Pedo Don has poopie in his diaper. He’s going to throw a fit if someone doesn’t clean his bum bum.

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    I’m used to AP titles being pretty dry, but they have started putting some bite in them.

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    I’d hope NATO actually makes a clear distinction between aggressors and defenders in a war. Trump has already twisted ‘national threat’ to justify whatever he wants, and while his own country seems fine with it, I can’t imagine international allies just going along with that kind of logic

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      NATO is a defensive alliance. It was used only once (right after 9/11).

      In the past individual nations can choose to help, but that’s outside of NATO’s purpose.

      No nation wants to help because 1) few months ago he threatened to attack NATO 2) the mess he created is massive and also no one trusts US government to be competent right now, so getting involved will only end up with even bigger losses

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          He is doing what putin asks. Putin loves creating dilemmas.

          The ideal (for putin) scenario would be to have Europe to decide between getting oil from Russia (this is why trump lifted sanctions) or get involved in Middle East.

          Both of those would lead to decreased support for Ukraine, first one he could threaten to cut oil off they didn’t, the second would be very unpopular with public and Russia would exploit isolationist tendencies.

          I’m actually glad that it looks like Ukraine is bombing Baltic terminals and Europe realized that greeting involved in the mess trump started will make things even worse.

          And yeah there are people saying “how can trump new helping Russia when he attacked Venezuela and Iran who are Russian allies” the answer to it is to look if those actions helped putin or hurt putin.

          In Venezuela he removed Maduro but kept the old Russian friendly government.

          Iran it massively helped. The oil prices spiked when previously Russia was selling at a loss, by helping Iran Russia still is seen as ally and now US is dragged to the same war Russia sights with Ukraine (ideally he would want rest of NATO be dragged there too).

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          He didn’t understand that he couldn’t make deals with individual countries in the EU in his first term and badgered Merkel about it repeatedly despite being told. So he doesn’t understand it, wilfully or otherwise … but he’s also surrounded himself with people that don’t understand it either.

          People like Trump don’t use this type of talk to gain a better understanding or to communicate truth or ideas. They use it to get what they want, which is why his statements are jarring to people that pay any decent attention.

          “The strait is fine” is to try to calm the stock market – but – “NATO needs to help the strait” is to get other people to fix his fuck up