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    22 days ago

    Well, they’re kinda busy right now getting bombed so I don’t think it’s a priority now.

    Like, sure, at first the blackout was due to repression, yes. But then after a while these two countries started bombing the crap out of Iran, so now it’s a slightly different situation.

    Let’s imagine you have two crackheads smashing your front door: are you gonna be worried about fixing the internet at that very moment?

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      22 days ago

      The Internet isn’t broken it’s turned off

      The reason its turned off was because of protests.

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      Gives the regime a nice scapegoat to help turn the protestors anger at the US and external factors.

      The smart thing would have been for the US to quietly back the revolution and provide them with support to overthrow the regime. But here we are.

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        22 days ago

        Trump said they tried this by routing them weapons through the Kurds and the Kurds just kept the weapons.

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          Weird, I wonder why the people Trump left to die less than a decade ago don’t want to help him out??

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            Hey! Whoa! That’s not fair to claim that trumps book and the bussiness style employed in that book relates to this situation! That’s totally an unfair thing to say! After all, the guy who wrote that book has nothing to do with the way trump does bussiness!

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        it likely wont happened as they likely quashed the protests with tons of executions, plus they can just turn of the internet to prevent them from organizing further. they did with the murder of the little iranian girl years ago, there wasnt significant pushback since.

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      At this point, the shutdown might even be strategic, to make it more difficult for the us to gather leaked information

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        22 days ago

        …and keep US propaganda and tech Oligarchs out. Any nation that doesn’t control its information borders, risk ‘regime change’ by the US regime…

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          Or the Russian regime. Or at this point the combination.

          Would your country like to join the Internet borg?

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    There are some in the govt with whitelisted SIM cards and dissidents with starlink dishes but that’s it. Most Iranians are trying to get out of the country to get internet access at a risk.

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    You know, i think i might learn how to set up ad hoc networks to prepare for this sort of thing. I know its essentially wartime there now, but without internet, its harder to transmit the truth from the eyes of the civilians. Fucking sucks whats happening there. Repressive government, but filled with people who simply want a life free of the conflict, the endless battles, various ethnic groups simply wanting freedom from those who have invaded and partitioned their people.

    This cant end well. . .

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      I say we shouldn’t take any platforms “seriously.”

      This platform is small and open and hosted by volunteer individuals. That is what makes it nice for most of us, but it also means there will always be a variety in who you interact with and it will never be a consistent homogenous branded product.

      The huge corporate platforms kind of flip that - you get a massive user base and a very intentionally designed user experience, but everything else about it is a nightmare.

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    Just wanna state that this has been going on since before US involvement. Two dictatirs fighting each other…

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    22 days ago

    That article reads like a ChatGPT summary, though I’m not sure if that’s partially due to translation from German or not.

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    Approximately 0.1 years out of 3 billion years, truly a crisis. Precisely what people occupied themselves with for 3 billion years before the internet existed we may never know. Some claim they spent quite considerable time as single cell organisms, then multicellular aquatic organisms, until the species reached it’s apogee, a flabby orange real estate pedo fraudster.

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      That’s a stupid time frame. Wouldn’t be so bad except nearly everything relies on the Internet now. Especially information.

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        lots of prepper fetishist weirdos in this thread who seem to think anyone who thinks electricity, plumbing, and internet is normal are ‘weak’.

        because apparently if we were ‘strong’ we would all be hunting animals and coking their carcasses over fires and sleeping outside… and communicating via smoke signal… lol

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        One thing that seemingly doesn’t rely on the internet is Iran’s masterful ability to make the American bullies look criminally stupid. It’s already hugely impressive, imagine what they could do with a bit of WiFi.

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      Survival of the fittest, but unfortunately for all things earthly, for a brief period of time the fittest inexplicably turned out to be an orange blob of shit, jeopardizing any further evolution for all species.

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      It would be very odd if the US or Israel did it, because this started when Iran wanted to stop communications among citizens who were protesting the government.

      TL;DR, yes. It was Iran. It began before the attacks on Iran (back when it was Iran attacking its own people)

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        It began before the attacks on Iran

        Not true. Iranian people have been attacked by murderous US+EU sanctions killing tens of thousands of them every year for decades now. The protests were literally engineered by the US as a form of justification for the war, look at Iranian Rial exchange prices on the months before the protests. Hell, Trump literally admit a few days ago to sending weapons to the “protestors”.

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          Iran’s government has done plenty to deserve those sanctions. War is wrong no matter which side does it, and Iran is very guilty.

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            I wish you and your family never have to go through the “deserved sanctions” of the USA and EU, which together murder half a million people yearly since 1975 per latest medical research. I’m sure you don’t believe US citizens should starve to death for the actions of their government.

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              saddly nobody has found a better option. Iran has had particularly evil leaders for decades. (Why is interesting history itself - but not relavant to today)

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                saddly nobody has found a better option

                I guess all Yanks should be starved for choosing the wrong president? Or is that something you reserve to nonwhites?

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                  Or you can make war and kill innocents. Or you can turn your back and watch them kill innocents.

                  there are other variations, but I have yet to see an option that isn’t awful.

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          Sure, and Iran isn’t under a regime now, right? They shut down the internet because they didn’t like what was said over it.

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                “Regime” literally means “government”, it’s just a propaganda word to make it sound scary. You could perfectly correctly speak of the “American regime” imprisoning ethnic minorities or the “German regime” forbidding military-aged men from leaving the country without permission, the fact that you unironically use “regime in Iran” as if it were something intrinsically negative proves that your whole understanding of this is vibes-based. If you care about Iranians, riot in your EU/US homeland to destroy the economic sanctions, which MURDER HALF A MILLION people YEARLY over the globe since 1975 per the latest The Lancet publications.

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                  Bla bla, don’t try to “potato tomato” me, you know well what a regime is or you wouldn’t be upset at me calling it that. Funny that you are more worried about the economic sanctions, and not the repression, incarceration and execution of protesters… go spread your propaganda elsewhere.

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      Considering Iran shut the Internet off before the us/Israel attacked due to protests, I’m not sure we’ll ever know…

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        before the us/Israel attacked due to protests

        Israel and the US aren’t attacking due to the protests. They’re attacking because Israel wants to be like Nazi Germany leading up to the world wars and the US wants to help them.

        I question whether Iran actually did this because it seems like an extremely convenient timing of events that almost perfectly mimics the “WMDs” the media harped on about for weeks before we invaded Iraq almost like they’re following the exact same playbook used in that illegal invasion.

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    … longest in world history

    the world history have appear to forget that the longest there was without internet was literally a few billion years.

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      Don’t be a pendant, you know what they fucking meant.

      Edit: actually, it’s not even pedantic, it’s just wrong. Before the internet existed, there was never an internet shutdown.

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      Akshually, they have Internet, it’s just turned off.

      The Internet and infrastructure didn’t exist for billions of years, so they couldn’t be without something that didn’t exists

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      They probably had internet in Atlantis, or something like it, so that would be a shutdown of like 20,000 years or so before it was invented again.