There’s NOTHING Safer than having the Epstein Class KNOW where Kids are and WHEN they’re Home Alone!
-US Politicians!
Remember folks, age verification is personal identity verification.
💯 don’t call it age verification - that’s just what the unmasked scooby-doo villain is still hiding behind.
Well they could do it the right way where, for example, you go to your city hall to get a certificate of age where they check your ID. Then some cryptography happens so you only enter a public key from that certificate on a website or OS to verify your age.
The website or OS doesn’t check your ID. City hall doesn’t know your browsing history.
But I’m not fooling myself, that’s not the point of such a law.
If it’s completely local I’m less worried than online verification.
I’m not uploading any age verification online. I’ll quit the internet first.
“Key questions remain unanswered, such as the definition of “operating system provider,” the type of verification required, the focus on major commercial platforms, and the potential scope beyond them.”
I guarantee this bill is unenforceable. Cars, phones, traffic lights all have have computers with operating systems. All modern tech has an operating system of some sort. Also how do you even verify age? If my laptop is offline can I just not use it because it can’t confirm my id? What about tech that never goes online but has an OS, like a calculator? I can’t believe microsoft and apple are not lobbying against this. Who becomes liable if an “underage” person is accidentally given access or if access is denied to an “of age” person. I can just imagine an emt frantically looking for their driver’s license so they can use the computerized defibrillator.
Microsoft is probably salivating at the idea of being the only legal OS provider.
Microsoft and Apple. The internet will only allow OSs from large American corporations.
I’d like to see the rest of the world say “fuck it” and carry on as before, leaving the Americans to censor themselves. But governments around the world are suddenly rushing to implement very similar terrible laws. It smells very coordinated.
Meta is funding a lot of the lobbyists pushing for age verification laws. Uncoincidentally, Meta both owns a stake in a company providing identity verification as a service, and serves to benefit from not having to moderate its own platforms.
Citizens United, folks. Because nothing says “freedom of speech” like collusion, bribery, and conflicts of interest!
Yeah, governments all over are trying to implement the same shit, and I agree it’s coordinated. Many governments are also looking seriously at stepping back from reliance on US big tech firms though. Not that homegrown oppression and surveillance is any better.
But don’t some of these larger orgs fund Linux distros? Like Red Hat with Fedora?
But you KNOW the masses will comply because they’re told so. They don’t want to break the law…
It’s like Secure Boot, but without any of those pesky self-signing workarounds.
It feels like a Mr. Smith Goes to Washington display would solve this.
Just bring everything that has an operating system in it into the room. Cars, boats, planes, construction equipment, tractors, factories, knock off game consoles, literally every server on the internet.
Show them the ridiculousness of this and maybe we’ll get dragged out by police and charged with contempt of congress
Don’t give them even better ideas. To you it sounds ridiculous, to them it sounds like “we can ban people we don’t like from using modern technology by invalidating their age verification”
Go ahead and ban the people who are literally running the infrastructure they’re using
Will the sysadmins in Congress need to verify their age to use a server?
Will the sysadmins in Congress need to verify their age to use a server?
Yes. Yes, they will.
“Sorry, no email for your octogenarian Senator. TrumpID is down”
Offline computing?!
But
If my laptop is offline can I just not use it because it can’t confirm my id?
Yes. The powers at be will stop at nothing to take more, and more, and more power away from you. This is human nature.
The problem comes when a public school’s IT department is deciding whether to go with a FOSS option, or a commercial OS. As the IT team has full control over the FOSS OS, the school will be held liable as the OS provider. They will select a commercial OS to avoid liability under these idiot laws.
What is this argument? You and I both know they want this age verification at the OS level for personal computing devices: phones, tablets and computers, maybe watches.
Is this really what’s going to kill this law? Semantics?
Yeah, that’s kind of what laws are all about
Yeah actually. A lot of laws get shitcanned into irrelevance due to being worded like shit on everything from the local to federal levels. That’s not even getting into conflicts with pre-existing well worded laws or the constitution as a whole.
If it’s worded badly enough it may even just be thrown out on first test due to being vague and too widely applicable. Just for example I drive a 2001 Toyota Tacoma it has an operating system because it’s got an ECU, how the actual fuck would that interact with this law? Obviously the corporate answer is to force me to get a new car but the actual practical answer is that that isn’t viable, so it’s more likely the courts just gut an entire section of the law with one case. Keep up the gutting and sooner or later it’ll end up defunct.
Rules being implemented and enforced by actual pedophiles
*Ruling class rapists.
Rapist class
Pedophile class
They cant even define an OS. Do i need a fucking login for my wifi fridge and toaster. Such a stupid ffucking law.
You can’t open your fridge for beer until you verify your age.
Drink verification can…catch 22
Why does a fridge need to connect to the Internet? Or a toaster? Why does my toothbrush need Bluetooth?
OK, how about my surveillance cam? NAS appliance? My WiFi light controller? Network switch? They all run Linux.
Well now you have to provide ID to use any of those.
This is just another form of control and a potential verified data stream for governments/corporations/marketers.
How can you prove that internet traffic is a human and not a bot? ID verification.
How can you generate more user data? Force them to provide ID for every device that is connected.
Want to control piracy? Easy with OS level ID requirements.
Good luck, enterprise admins! Best wishes for the future
They will repurpose the same security chips that make digital payments and OS verification soon enough. Then you cannot bypass digital ID because it is on the hardware level.
Seems they are starting with software compliance to see who will voluntarily do their dirty work for them. Assume that M$ and App£€ will comply while making it difficult for smaller independent developers to comply thus removing any privacy options.
Same with Win11, force people to upgrade working tech because it lack hardware security chip support. Call it “anti-piracy” or “security updates” and force people to comply.
Like everything on shodan basically? FFS
Palantir really wants it’s fucking database.
All because Petey truly believes that there are demons living in the United States.
there are demons living in the USA. all Petey has to do to find the closest one… is look in a mirror.
No the sad truth is that Peter Theil is, in fact, human. A human that we are all capable of becoming.
You just have to make a billion bad decisions to get where he is now.
Nazis aren’t human. they are evil given physical form.
He is right, demons live in US. They are in various Federal, State, Local and Corporate functions. For example current Federal government are all demons (pretty much) and all of ICE employees. Demon here is “spirit or lesser humanity” or simly said Inhuman individuals.
I keep seeing comments like this, and I just need to say, no Palantir doesn’t have any database. It’s a completely evil company that makes and sells surveillance software to governments and companies. Then the governments and companies have these terrible databases that they manage with the Palantir software.
Palantir themselves don’t do any spying or data collecting. They sell tools so that others can do that. They absolutely take the blame, but I want people to understand what’s actually happening.
I’m having a hard time understanding how this is going to keep kids safe.
That’s because it is never about the children.
The same way the next laws will keep kids safe. When you leave your front door, you will have to drop your pants so the TSA can check your asshole. It’s necessary. You know. To keep kids safe.
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🤦♂️🤷♂️
Assprints are as unique as irises or fingerprints, and are bigger.
Safe? Never. But it will help the pedophiles find more children online. Sickos!
This is about protecting the entrenched players in the OS games; Microsoft, Google and Apple. The likely end play for all this is the erosion of personal computing so they can rent (and therefore control) all the compute available to you, so you don’t get uppity and think of running your own AI, which they believe will be as integral to everyday life as the internet is today.
Why would corporate billionaires and pedophile politicians want to keep kids safe? This has nothing to do with that.
I don’t even understand safe from what? Seeing titties? That is not bad and needs to be part of any growing up human, we’ve been all thru this, and we clearly see what happens to people who don’t/were banned from normal childhood. All sorts of freaks.
It helps the rich oligarchs track their child harem and broodmares and make sure nobody is infringing on their “rights” to treat people as property.
Don’t want to compete with a potentially capable Linux? Pay the government to make it illegal!
There’s already being work done to add an optional age-attestation in systemd.
And note that none of the laws proposed so far are actually verifying age, they’re only requiring someone to enter it. That’s attestation, not verification. Verification will be the next tightening of the screw.
They reverted the change and the Dev who made merge request got death threats.
Was it actually reverted? I saw the PR to revert the change, but last I checked it was closed and not approved
Maybe not. I heard it online.
palintir, meta, google are all behind it. it serves 2 purposes; silencing dissidents and TRACKING women/potential mothers as brood mares.
- identifying new blood boys for Thiel
how to stay young and probably prey on them, probably learned from another rich AH bryan johnson who is trying to stay young buy sucking the blood of his son, and doing “pseudoscience” on himself with questionable scientists about longevity.
one of thiel’s partner while married is a young male model, i get its a thing for older gay guys who are rich.
Fact check: TRUE
It’s time to start neutering the tech bros.
Flaying and salting
And pushes the onus of implementation onto others.
Don’t worry, with all these data centers going up, they’ll have enough hardware power to track the rest of us, too, not just the women.
Going up in flames?
Google actually gets fucked by this. They are likely one of the few to go against it. Having to deal with age I’d on android and Chromebooks would be a huge pita for them.
In the future, you’ll be sentenced to 10 years hard labour for a contraband OS while children are raped openly at lavish parties.
You will be sent to die for Israel 🤣
🎶Your government is run by pedophiles! 🎶
unrelated but I just want to say theres like 4 separate comments using the word “TrumpID” to describe this age verification, and i think this would be a great way to mock it just like how conservatives called the aca “ObamaCare”
You misunderstand, TrumpID is the company that will soon be created that will be the mandatory provider for all OS to use (and pay licence fees to).
That’s it! Get the guillotines!
Now do you see why I don’t trust government?
Because it does things like this. And it’s not just our US government doing it. The entire world is getting more and more authoritarian.
Government seeks power. Always. Which is why it must always be restrained.
Governments work for whoever acts like their bosses. The people don’t act that way, and oligarchs do, so here we are.
I trust the government, in that a government elected by a moderately intelligent population won’t be doing this fuckshit.
The biggest problem is that human beings are, by and large, far too stupid. As one guy put it, too many fully-grown adults are falling for obvious games of Peek-a-boo. There are billions of people so stupid that there are birds with greater levels of intelligence and problem solving skills.
We could have a wonderful world with a government that genuinely works for the people but instead half of us are voting our lives away just to spite already-disadvantaged minorities and the other half is voting for centrists because they’re too scared of even moderately progressive politicians. And the whole time polls show us as generally quite left-leaning, even the “conservatives” but we aren’t clever enough to see the tribalism right in front of us.
Governments are representing their people, that’s the problem, and there’s also no solution that doesn’t itself devolve into authoritarianism almost immediately. The only thing I’m genuinely holding out for is that the leaded-fuel-poisoning theory is real and we all smarten the fuck up ASAP. Reality is screaming at us to figure it the fuck out.
Be kind to others, the game is rigged against them. Propaganda has never been stronger and its everywhere.
Just yesterday I saw a video discussing how private equities buy up YouTube channels to seemingly both squeeze them for their worth and/or use their trust to push an agenda. E.g. fern & veritasium stood out to me the most.
Be kind to others, the game is rigged against them. Propaganda has never been stronger and its everywhere.
No, we’re long past the point where not being able to think critically about the shit we’re fed is acceptable. Misinformation has been rampant for decades. Anyone still swallowing it deserves all the criticism coming their way. People still buy into Trump’s bullshit for fucks sake. Fuck em.
The propaganda is lazy and obvious. I will not demand that many of them being hanged in the street but I will not sit here and act as though they aren’t immensely fucking stupid for falling for this crap. They can’t even be consistent enough in their own messaging to claim that the wool has been pulled over their eyes.
Oh no! Veritasium, that was a good one for basic physics stuff as far as i could tell.
It got acquired some years back and he even talked about it in a video year something later. Doesn’t mean he’s sold out, but the impact will be there.
Im not sure about “restrained” per see, but the tree of liberty needs to be watered from time to time
The bush of freedom needs trimming from time to time.
Has Bipartisan support too. The corporations want this, and both of our parties listen to them first and us a distant second. Catering to corporate wants is about the only thing the two parties can agree on. It’s probably going to pass, even if I hope it doesn’t. Buckle up my friends…
The Internet is built upon and requires anonymous participation! This is an attempt to end privacy…
Youth rights and children rights should not be forgotten. These rights are the most impacted here, which fundamentally causes them to succeed in the eradication of privacy rights.
Meta, etc pushing this so that they don’t have to.
They want this because it entrenches them yet further. More of this kind of regulations makes it more difficult for newcomers to comply with everything.
Also I’m sure they’d love to be the one to hover up all of your data.
Man, if they don’t have all my data by now, they’re doing something wrong.
