• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Yeah fuck it. I swear these fucking movements are almost intentionally avoiding any caveat that might make it 400% more paletable.

    Imagine how many fucking arguments people could have avoided if they called the movement “black lives matter too” instead of “black lives matter”. It’s three fucking letters, but it adds an incredible amount of context and emphasis on the inequality. Same with going from LGBT to LGBTQIA2S+ or other longform acronym that is not as straightforward as LGBT+ (same as the historically well known “name” , paying homage to the idea that there are other forms of this experience(?) that are not covered by the 4 letters) or GSM (Gender & Sexual Minorities , which unambigiously covers everything).

    If you want to reply anything among the lines of “The riot is the speech of the unheard”, I said it for you, just move along.

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      Imagine how many fucking arguments people could have avoided if they called the movement “black lives matter too” instead of “black lives matter”.

      It’s so simple, so obvious…and such a missed opportunity. And while I personally saw the “too” as implied, it led to bad-faith actors really twisting it as well as inevitably some people actually not understanding it.

      Same with going from LGBT to LGBTQIA2S+ or other longform acronym that is not as straightforward as LGBT+

      The fear of leaving anyone out led to tacking on more and more letters, and then disagreements about which letters to include.

      GSM (Gender & Sexual Minorities , which unambigiously covers everything).

      I haven’t heard this one before, but I like it for its simplicity.

      “Defund the police” was another fail in that the phrase didn’t accurately portray the actual intention and was off-putting to people who might have otherwise supported it.

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        And while I personally saw the “too” as implied, it led to bad-faith actors really twisting it as well as inevitably some people actually not understanding it.

        Don’t you think bad faith actors will do that regardless? The problem isn’t that the names were bad, the problem is a large amount of people had no interest in learning anything beyond the name and/or actively fought against learning what those groups were actually for.