So, microsoft, how’s that vibe coding coming along?
Why do i ask? Oh, no reason.
Idk how to tell you, but it’s AI that found the vulnerabilities created by humans in the first place… Of course they didn’t have to use AI to fix the discovered vulnerabilities, but it would’ve taken a lot longer and more than like still be riddled with bugs
How is falling to show the name of a file in the recycle bin fixing a vulnerability?
It isn’t. They patched a shit ton of vulnerabilities. In the process, the broke the recycle bin confirmation.
I don’t know how to tell you this, or actually I do: They vibecoded the update.
I know. I said as much. But they vibe coded patches to vulnerabilities found by AI. Vulnerabilities created by humans
well yeah, humans make mistakes that ai is capable of finding but so does ai which also makes mistakes frequently.
companies that use ai for bug fixing are spending extra on ai only for the ai to create Spaghetti code and require humans to go back and fix it anyway.
Ai is good for quick code generation but when it comes to larger scale projects like creating an operating system its much better used as a tool to support devs rather then the other way round.
Yeah. My work machine now regularly black screens for up to 30 seconds then comes back. The Adobe Acrobat reader we are forced to use is now so bloated that it freezes the whole machine for up to a minute. What an OS.
Lately whenever someone complains their C partition is full, it’s always unmistakably Adobe’s fault. Their shitty way of updating piles up crap in the Windows Installer folder. Uninstalling Adobe and cleaning up its garbage, no joke, frees up anywhere from 20 to 40 gigabytes of storage. Insane.
What software are we talking about here? There is no way Acrobat takes up that much space. Photoshop might though.
Whatever the reader is called now. It’s a known “feature”. They use Windows Installer patch system to update the application, but for some reason if it fails to update, it just re-downloads the patch without removing the failed ones. Or at least that’s my understanding. Allegedly (according to Adobe at least) it’s a rare bug, but I’ve had over a dozen machines from end users where this caused C partition to run full and slow down/freeze/crash the system. And I’m being serious when I say some machines regained over 30GB of space after uninstalling the reader.
Whoa.
My work machine now regularly black screens for up to 30 seconds then comes back.
Almost certainly driver, sometimes a failing dock or cable though.
The Adobe Acrobat reader we are forced to use is now so bloated that it freezes the whole machine for up to a minute.
That’s just adobe products. They’re great for subscription revenue for adobe.
I switched to fedora for work myself and onlyoffice is handling my current pdf needs, works great and FOSS. Can save to DOCX and everything… and the same program handles those too.
We have monitors where static shock anywhere on the desk will turn off the monitors for a few seconds and then come back on. It’s very annoying
That’s a grounding issue, not anything to do with Windows
Nice.
My employer just switched away from Adobe, so thankfully, haven’t see those issues.
Mine has been doing shit like that for close to a year, the graphics driver is sooooo unstable
Just amazing work coming out of the slopShop recently.
There’s an argument to be made that it’s better than what was previously released, given there are over 200 vulnerabilities to begin with. Though, Microsoft was slop long before AI
200?! Jesus. For what people are paying for it I’d expect 0. Goddamn.
I just don’t want OneDrive. Can it stop refusing to be deleted?
Best we can do is remind you later.
You can procure windows LTSC.
Behold, massgrave
Dev
Who forgot the dot?
⚫️
You can delete it from your run registry, and uninstall it by running
%systemroot%\SysWOW64\OneDriveSetup.exe /uninstallUnattendedwinstall from memstechtips. Amazing experience. For further tweaking, cttwinutil.
I second this, along with removing
kamikazeI mean Copilot.
The company I work for is currently in the process of switching from our own server and email client to Outlook and OneDrive. It’s gonna be a fucking nightmare when we switch.
Not IT, but my fortune 500 employer has been on MS365 since my day one. Judging by the issues we fight with every day with those products, may God help you.
When my work forced the transition from 10 to 11 is when all of my computer issues began.
Not really windows related but my work wonders why as an IT guy I think it’s a bad idea to force updates the day they come out.
There’s a reason why there is a Windows NT 4 Service Pack 6a…
Breaking onedrive? I’m confused. It’s like that thing in Southpark “How do you kill that which has no life?”
Things can always get more broken. That’s where mortals have an advantage; you can’t get any deader.
No, but you can rack up illnesses…to a point.
So, all in all… A relatively decent Windows update compared to the average?
Clickbait and misleading. Nothing “broke”. The recycling bin works just fine, the name of the file in the confirm delete popup is just displayed wrong.
It isn’t the details or severity of the break that matters.
It’s that the quality control process is SUPPOSED to catch that, and whatever sorry excuse for a process they’re using now ALLOWED a break that was obvious, visible, and repeatable, inside a critical, core function of the operating system, to make it to the end users, something that should trigger as an immediate, flashing warning light. That means the entire quality control process at the very least is SEVERELY compromised and unreliable, and there could very easily be MUCH more severe vulnerabilities and bugs hiding underneath that AREN’T immediately visible. To anyone who has done any professional development for non-disposable code bases, this isn’t a whisper of a problem - it’s an air horn.
AI found the exploits, and they clearly used AI to fix the exploits… That about as far as the QC conversation went
Developer written unit tests likely wouldn’t even catch that bug with the recycling bin, because it doesn’t even matter what the text says when it’s being deleted. It’s not a breaking bug. It wouldn’t hold up a release. It might have even been found in QA and might have a super low priority ticket to fix it because again, it’s non breaking and doesn’t affect anything in any way.
You don’t understand how software dev QA works, clearly.
Yeah. I’ve only been a veteran of the process for 20 years - I don’t know a thing about what I’m talking about.
“non-breaking” is a meaningless distinction. What you’re REFERRING to is a “cosmetic” bug, and “cosmetic”, depending on the software and the shop, does NOT mean “acceptable for release”, and FURTHERMORE, this is not a new bug that’s been filed as low priority or will-not-fix, but a REGRESSION because it DID work in the past, which means it’s DOUBLE damning.
I’m not interested in waving around credentials about who knows more about software development - if you work in a shop that doesn’t care about quality, that’s between you and the shop. But if you want to claim that someone at Microsoft said “Yeah, it doesn’t correctly reflect the filename, a critical check to ensure users don’t accidentally delete the wrong file, which is something that’s worked for 30 years” and then signed off on that, instead of the MUCH more likely explanation that NOBODY is looking at ANY of this crap with the detail they should be, I’m afraid I’m going to have to laugh.
To give you an idea, in the XBox division, a division of Microsoft, this would be considered a compliance failure that prevents a game from going gold for launch on the platform, and if caught would cost the developer thousands and weeks to fix before the game could go live because it would necessitate starting the final step of the certification process over again, because EVERY SINGLE TEST has to be run again to ensure JUST this kind of regression doesn’t resurface.
But no - the same company would claim it’s totally acceptable for the operating system that runs bank software because it’s “non-breaking”.
Non-breaking isn’t meaningless - it means it doesn’t break anything. It means it doesn’t affect users, and thus it’s not going to be high priority or be enough to block a release.
They understand it as much as Microsoft does, given the evidence
So, nothing broke, except the thing that broke. Gotcha.
Broken means it doesn’t work. Everything about the recycling bin functionally works.
Sounds like Copilot code.
Well, not mine.
I wonder if that’s why my work PC has been having all kinds of stuttering/lag issues. I’m regularly seeing a second or two between clicking/typing at various points throughout the day.
Project K2, baby!
/s if it wasn’t obvious.
So glad to be off of this shitshow
Same. Happy new Linuxer.
Yes. I finally switched my work laptop to Linux last year, and it feels like so many bullets dodged.
Weird. Monthly updates used to be pretty harmless with a bunch of little bug fixes that really only affected a few people. Then AI came out, and in the past 6 months or so every patch Tuesday has been a complete disaster. It’s almost as if they laid off a bunch of engineers and now have the remaining ones just vibe coding shit while using the same LLM to do code review and everything is going to hell. Not that it was a phenomenal product to begin with, but when you have engineers vibe coding patches for such a delecate platform, it’s going to end in disaster.
Are you suggesting the patches are fixing issues the AI caused? If so, that isn’t what’s happening. AI is finding vulnerabilities from old human written code at a pace unlike anything before. Not because humans couldn’t technically find them, it’s just that they never did. That isn’t me marketing or shelling out for an AI company, there are many different models accomplishing the same thing, and more to come. It’s not just with Microsoft, though Microsoft has a lot of vulnerabilities to find. AI is causing chaos for just about every major tech company with all the vulnerabilities being found. And they have to find and patch them before someone else uses the AI to find and abuse the vulnerabilities first. The long standing match of cat and mouse is much faster than it once was
This is actually a very valid take, and I didn’t think of it this way. Man, what a complicated landscape AI has made. Pandora’s box certainly has been opened.
MICROSOFT who encourages employees to us AI to code things? \s
didn’t notice tbf. because i haven’t used this goblinshit for months.
goblinshit
My new favorite descriptor. Nice job!
