• Demdaru@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Oh, when you look at miracles, they do heal a lot! Some of it is even scientifically proven IIRC. Human mind is a funny thing.

    But in all cases, faith works on small scale, and quite often simply individual. So yeah…not even a start to science.

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      11 hours ago

      You know what, even though everyone is downvoting you, I sort of agree with you. Persons faith can help him get better, physically and mentally. Either through placebo or peace of mind. Thats the whole shtick with people not being afraid cause god got their back, or people turning their life around because of accepting faith into their life.

      What’s unfortunate with religion is the tendency of other humans exploiting that faith to commit awful things.

      Faith’s IMO definitely a double-edge sword and very subjective, which is it’s strength and weakness.

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        10 hours ago

        Yeeeep. Faith is a tool, especially if said faith is based on good intentions. It can be used for good (peace of mind, hospitality, feeding the poor, supporting communities), but even if faith itself was infallibly good, community aeound it simply will never be. And people who need to take shelter in faith often are more easily manipulated, sadly.

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      13 hours ago

      look, I’m not bothered by your faith as long as you (religious people) keep it to yourselfs. The issue is using this, which is YOUR belief, as excuse to deny science? as is happening around the world.

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      1 day ago

      But in all cases, faith works on small scale

      so you’re saying it’s not statistically significant then? makes sense, most farces aren’t

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        I mean, true. But at worst, faith worsk as a placebo, forcing our minds and bodies to fight harder for some unkown reason. At best, there were unexplainable cases. May as well assume it’s faith until proven otherwise.

        In all cases, statistically insignificant xD

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      There’s no way to scientifically measure faith or miracles as you’re describing. Saying “miracles do heal a lot” is an absurdly meaningless statement.

      On the other hand, there is some evidence that people don’t work as hard at their own recovery when they believe people are praying for them, so believing in mumbo jumbo can actually hurt you.

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        10 hours ago

        The placebo effect is scientific and real. It’s so well established that when they are testing medicines they test them against placebo and track the placebo healing rates, because the drug needs to statistically heal better than the placebo healed.