• ogeist@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    At the risk of being downvoted, religious laws were often used as methods of survival. Some groups bathed every so often, others had washing face as a rule, some didn’t ate pork or shellfish as they would rot really quickly, some would not kill cows because they would lose a long lasting source of rich in nutrients milk or simply the power to plough field thus increasing food production.

    So religion didn’t cure anything miraculously but it sure helped the communities to survive and the scientific method took a while to be developed.

    I’m an atheist but im also aware of the benefits religion had at some point. Remember that the guy that proposed washing hamds between autopsies and child birth was ridiculed.

    Sorry for no funny haha :(

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      8 hours ago

      I was going to say religion is still necessary to control some people because there are some straight up sociopaths that only behave because of the fear of hell, but the fact that they totally believe they’re one of Jesus’ special little buddies makes me think that makes the issue even worse.

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        There is no evidence that this actually true. Religious leaders say this true, but then they turn around and cover atrocities that their religious underlings are doing, so they’re themselves are the counterpoint to their own bullshit.

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    12 hours ago

    Is it only US where religious people are like “vaccines are satan” or do other countries have them as much?

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      I’ve seen it around Africa. Usually related to where there’s a bunch of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It dovetails well with scattered cultural prohibitions on anything to do with messing with the blood. No blood donations, no transfusions. Likely related to decades of HIV/AIDS concerns.

      Edit: it’s also why a lot of polio vaccines are oral in Africa. Less stigma.

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        I’ve seen it around Africa. Usually related to where there’s a bunch of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

        So it’s USA again. Usual bullshit colonialism.

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          Oh no, it’s locals that are JWs. But there’s plenty of non-JW cultural reasons that push the idea of no injections.

          Did you really just ignore the entire second half of the comment? The JW folks just have a more coherent “it says no in this book” logic.

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    17 hours ago

    The people downvoting this should respond with an info graphic. They can use yours.

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    I grew up in the church, they will tell you that since a human(s) eradicated a disease, it was clearly god that worked through them. They always have a workaround bullshit answer

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        Yeah the omnipotent God bullshit breaks when a rainstorm floods a girls camp and kills a bunch of them. But then they claim the devil did it, or even victim blame in a creepy and fucked up way wondering if they were really pure Christians or not, or if there’s some mysterious upside or lesson.

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      I mean if we accept the hypothesis that God exists, and that he created humans, he created them with a reason.

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          But didn’t he create it all for us though? Which then becomes a good excuse for us to consume it all.

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            I mean, we’re supposed to be stewards according to the teachings, but all those dumbass children hear is, “hey this is yours …” and just kinda space off the rest of everything said…

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        Sure, but the logic reveals literally nothing. I can create an entire Sims world for the sole reason to see if the “turn pink clothing in to green clothing” mod works. Does the fact that their existence had a reason actually mean a damn thing?

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    I prayed for god to eradicate or decimate those diseases, and he in his infinite wisdom created scientists to do so.

    Checkmate atheists.

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      That’s what I don’t understand about creationists. If you believe god made everything, what’s wrong with believing God used evolution to do it? If the answer is “take the Bible literally”, well that doesn’t work because of all the shit in the Bible that they choose to ignore.

      The premise of religion is designed to be bullet proof: god requires faith, don’t test god. It’s required that you have to believe it without proof. Why add things that are so far out there like “the devil/god made fossils as a trick to test your faith”?