Just know that everyone on that list is a violent extremist including me
I don’t get it. Is this some personal vendetta the dev has? Have they really been in this many internet arguments? Where did this list come about and why?
They posted an explanation in the tesseract community, but it boils down to they want the fediverse to succeed and replace reddit, but there is a contingent of toxic users that they feel is hindering that goal so they precompiled a list for new instance admins.
It’s fully optional and can easily be disabled in the UI
It is not fully optional. It was obfuscated and unremovable. That’s why the backlash has been so severe.
Not to mention, why should a user interface make that decision? That’s up to individual server admins and their userbase.
Fully agree on the weirdness that this would somehow be the concern of a frontend. Nah brh. Very strange.
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The author offers a lengthy explanation in their own words as to precisely why this was done. TLDR: people are free to stop using it, but he’s making these changes because he wants to offer this service on behalf of those who don’t enjoy all the toxicity here.
Lmfao. I didn’t make it more than a few paragraphs because it’s written with the maturity of a 10 year old in a chocolate sausage museum.
You can really tell they’re up for an honest and open conversation with the community, really trying to improve the Fediverse, with their locking of all comments.
He’s clearly the toxic one and is projecting his issues onto hundreds of others.
Lol. TIL I’m a violent extremist. Me. Boring, professional, suit wearing, family of four having, generic white guy.
The world this guy lives in must be truly weird.
Boring, professional, suit wearing, family of four having, generic white guy.
That is like the quintessential serial killer description by his neighbors.
“It’s the quiet ones you gotta watch” -George Carlin
I mean, to be fair, here is that entire paragraph for context:
As will be explained further, there are 10 rules that are enforced, the biggest one being a very basic “don’t be a violent extremist”. That’s probably 30% of the list. Another 50% are just alts of Dwazou (persistent, long-term ban evader), and the remaining 20% just garden-variety spammers and toxic people who scare the normies away.
Based on this, it is much more likely that you are an alt of Dwazou. (Or maybe I am? 🤪 Statistically, between the three of us, you me and the author, ONE of us must be!!)
Maybe we both are. I’m not sure we’d know…
Why are you talking to yourself? /j
people are not “free to stop using it” if the instance admin is using it.
honestly I don’t even give a fuck about me being on “the list” anymore. I’m more upset that he decided for hundreds if not thousands of users without consulting them or taking into consideration of their opinions.
he took the choice away from them, and that’s kind of the problem with tech anymore.
@ptz@dubvee.org is a scammy piece of shit that got caught and is attempting to do damage control now.
don’t his users and his users users deserve transparency?
Yes they do but the irony present in your reply is palpable.
Incels upon being told no simply create an alt to evade bans.
Tesseract bans them anyway.
WoN’t SoMeOnE pLeAsE tHiNk oF tHe
childrenBaN eVaDeRs?!Sadge :-(
I think you missed the point.
I won’t bother wasting my time explaining it, I’ll just block you.
because I have the choice to do that
Your TLDR reeeeeeealllllly buries the lede.
Fair, I guess that was more my own take-away from it than summary! :-P
Eh, I guess my opinion is somewhat colored by seeing some of the things they decided to block. Like “perchance” stood out. None of that specific information was in this post.
THAT list is able to be disabled, though people are mad about its discoverability and transparency.
The OTHER list, the smaller instance-level one, reportedly cannot be disabled, seemingly the only recourse for those instances on it are to use his fork of the code.
This is from db0’s reporting, I have not attempted to confirm personally, but I would be happy to be corrected if need be.
Honestly, with this block list, what’s actually left in terms of content? That list would surely account for half this platform’s traffic or more.
Yeah it’s not for me either, but I also believe that people have a right to not have other’s speech or behavior forced upon them, which is kind of exactly what ActivityPub was created to facilitate and what separates it from corporate platforms.
Holy fuck I made the list wow
Hey, thanks. I had heard about the list but didn’t know where to find it. Turns out I’m on it, too. Badge of honor.
Same. I even got a whole ass regex.
Yeah, I didn’t know I had it in me! Death to Zionism. Such violence.
s/ism/ists/g
oops, made a violence
I’m on a list. This is a big day for me.
First read as violet extremist and thought the blacklist was about armpit lickers.
I’m not on the list, and have been thinking if they want to curate their instance/app whatever it was that’s their right.
But “Jessi?e Welle?s” is on the list? I get he’s political, but if you don’t like what he’s saying I think I’d rather associate with the people on the list because if they’re being put next to Jessie they’re probably good people.
Maaaan guess I need to post more
At this point they should just have a whitelist, that’s a hell of a list! There’s some users I recognise from my instance who are chill so I can’t imagine how they ended up on this list.
What the fuck did violet do to make the list?
I feel like one of the things he said was that he blacklisted people who “regularly post things normal people don’t want to see” (or something along those lines). I assumed that was a blanket statement to cover Violet and anyone else whose posts have made him feel uncomfortable.
What an absolute snowflake.
How do I apply for the list
Not a single SDF user? I guess we’re a peaceful bunch
hey you wanna eat some random shit
no 40 checking in!
Tesseract dev: “I made a list of people who willfully misconstrue things to create drama and play the victim”.
people on that list: “OHH WOW SO I’M A VIOLENT EXTREMIST NOW???”
Are you trying to create drama and play the victim while complaining about other people supposedly creating drama and playing the victim?
They have a cure for that, it’s called fucking off.
im no victim i’m the winner here lol
Winners are well-regarded for doing everything you’re doing.
nice
TIL the wholesome yuri community are violent extremists.
you learned that? where?
did you read the devs reply?, He definitely wasn’t saying this was for annoying people who misconstrue things
As will be explained further, there are 10 rules that are enforced, the biggest one being a very basic “don’t be a violent extremist”. That’s probably 30% of the list. Another 50% are just alts of Dwazou (persistent, long-term ban evader), and the remaining 20% just garden-variety spammers and toxic people who scare the normies away.
I’m not an alt of dwazou, or a spammer so guess that just leaves violent extremist.
To the fascist nazi scumbag, “violent extremist” means anyone that opposes genocide, anyone that has espoused consequences for murder, torture, and oppression, or anyone that has ever made fun of Charlie “Goebbels” Kirk.
Some even proudly so, from the looks of things:-P.
they’re allowed lol
smug levels off the charts. gross.
Honestly, incels have a greater need than normies for a space on the internet where they can be as toxic as they like. On account of nobody willing to listen to them irl… 🤣
They already have Twitter and Reddit!
And Twitch (where “sadge” derives from, according to my Google-fu), and Tiktok, and Instagram, and don’t forget Lemmy, and… but the thing is, when you’ve been banned from ALL of those, where else do you go next, other than a free instance with an open sign-up policy? 🤪
Seriously, I wanted to open a PR to add myself to the list, but the fucker took the repo offline because he couldn’t handle the backlash. Wussy.
My internet poisoned brain trying to figure out what permutation of pussy starts with w
Woman’s pussy
I’m not on the list. But I’m banned from Reddit, so I got that going for me, which is nice.
Hell yea fam. I checked the other day and my banned account is still a mod on numerous subs I modded. Nice to know my homies left me there.
same. not on the list and got temporary banned today lol
Cause you a real 1
love how literally everyone on lemmy is clowning on tesseract and that mofo
Everyone knows what this means but nobody knows what it’s from.
“I was to your left”
Is that a movie or something?
Obsession.
I never watched more than a few episodes of Frasier, but I remember a commercial for an episode of it - one I unsuccessfully tried to find online just now. I shall paraphrase:
Niles(?): “What perfume is that?”
Unknown woman: “It’s ‘Obsession.’”
Niles: “No, it’s not, I was just curious, really.”
I hope you have enjoyed this flawed reenactment.
I think the movie is obsession
Thank you
I know what it’s from and I can’t stop thinking about it.
I still haven’t seen the movie, but I’ve seen a synopsis of the movie.
I am so disappointed.
But I’m hopeful.
Because what I really want to see is part two of this movie where a random group of like a hundred people get one and they know it will grant one wish and what wishes they make and what the consequences of a hundred random people across the world having a single wish granted all at the same time or within like the same few weeks.
Mothers grieving over their dead children who wished to be able to fly, but never thought about landing.
Competition from 10 or 15 people who wish to be the richest person in the world one after the other and having their wish granted only to be killed a day later by the next person who wishes to be the richest person in the world and having all of their riches transferred to that person.
People wishing for magic and being haunted by demons.
People wishing that their lost loved ones would come back to life and having the undead rise.
There is so much potential in this concept if I just hope somebody has the balls to actually reach out and go for it because it would be such a good movie.
You’re looking for Bruce Almighty.
But as a thriller slash horror movie, not as a comedy.
I still haven’t seen the movie, but I’ve seen a synopsis of the movie.
So, I feel like they leaned a bit hard on jump-scares to deliver the horror element. But the Wishing Willow is really just a vehicle for the plot, it’s not important to the plot. The story is about male loneliness and youthful impatience and not being able to see past your own unhappiness to recognize the importance of other people.
And it’s also about Inde Navarrette hitting it out of the fucking park with her acting.
Don’t get hung up on the magical realism of the MacGuffin that kicks off the movie’s 2nd Act. If you enjoy a good popcorn horror/thriller and don’t mind liberal use of gross-out material, it’s a stellar film.
Adding to this: the lighting work was fantastic. Lots of darkness and silhouettes really added to the creepiness.
I have no idea what tesseract is and at this point, I’m too afraid to ask.
You can check it out from your own instance by going to https://t.lemmy.world/ (that might be an older version though? at one point Tesseract development was frozen but then it later resumed).
Your instance sidebar also mentions several other alternative UIs:
https://a.lemmy.world/ - Alexandrite UI https://photon.lemmy.world/ - Photon UI https://m.lemmy.world/ - Voyager mobile UI https://old.lemmy.world/ - A familiar UI https://blorp.lemmy.world/ - Blorp UI
Yeah, how do I get on that list? Seems like the hot list right now.
Is there like, a website, or a form? Do I need to fail an IQ test? You know, like cops can’t score greater than 80 on an IQ test.
The shibboleth is as follows:
Death to Moe!
Abolish guillotines.
Yuri, perchance?
Post this exactly at midnight, three days in a row, at the appointed place.
You can’t just say perchance
And get it wet
Just think of what would piss a pedohitler hooligan and be it publicly. Try to state it often so they can notice you eventually. It’s considered a bonus if you make it to the regex user list because it means they want you silenced even if you try to bounce instance.
Good luck!
call @ptz@dubvee.org a fascist pig and he’ll add you to the list evidently.
I still wonder what it is I said/posted that did it. Was it the Luigi pictures? The guillotine images? Or my relentless disdain for all things Microslop?
why not ask him?
@ptz@dubvee.org what dumbshit things did we say that hurt your fragile ego?
oh never mind, I’m on the block list too.
If anyone gets ahold of him ask how I earned such high praise.
If you’re on .world and you haven’t been hassled over Luigi comments, I’d say your comments have been relatively tame.
What do you mean? I think all CEOs should be Luigi-ed.
Don’t forget eaten afterwards!
Why not force them to kill and eat eachother slowly over the course of a year or two? Every time around lunch, just toss a stick in the pit and let them sort it out.
We would supply food ourselves, of course, but that’s socialism. They should feel at home in a competitive environment.
I would like to submit my application.
Fuck the establishment, down with tesseract and its shitty dev, roll some heads for peace.
xxx swooper
Congrats!
Did you even say
thank youperchance?Oh no, application rejected! Haha
I think most of the people on the blocklist are not people I want to talk to. But you can fuck off if you’re going to put that shit in a public client. Let people manage what they want to see by themselves.
I recognized a few names on there as brain dead trolls or politically extreme zealots. I’m sure some are fine and maybe just got on the devs nerves for something petty or isolated, but either way you’re right, let people manage their shit. Tired of people thinking they can nanny everyone else or tell others what to do or think or feel.
Edit:just to add, I also know one person on the list outside of Lemmy comments and they are a great person. They probably had one angry comment and the Dev took exception to that.
Sometimes you are just going to piss people off no matter what. Shit lemmy grew as the 2024 election in the U.S. grew. If users from the U.S. weren’t bitching about politics or calling others names… Then we probably deserve the current state
The first person I looked up had an extremely inflammatory slogan as their cover picture. The sentiment was anti-israel, so I expect most people here, including myself, at least broadly (possibly wholeheartedly) agree with his general stance, but I think such slogans are wrong and unhelpful so… yeah.
They put in blahaj in its entirety and that instance is a good 90% the people I ever want to talk to.
The instances, according to his rambling post, were blocked because of admin stances on violence. I’m sure you’ve seen violent posts on Lemmy calling for people to be Luigid or whatever.
Similar to my stance on individuals, I think that stuff crosses a line and needs to be removed from the fediverse, but again it’s not the place of a front-end developer to enforce that, especially not by muting the entire instance.
I think if he’s right about instance admins, there’s an argument to use the existing mechanism (defederation) which won’t make me very popular, but hopefully clarifies where I stand.
Free Palestine!!!
Does tesseract dev support Israel?
Not to speak for them, but my understanding is they abhor all calls to violence… And paradoxically, supporting Palestinian freedom is maybe a call to violence?
I don’t want to make claims that don’t exist, but that’s how I could explain them blocking statements like this.
And to be clear, yes, free Palestine!
Wasn’t Admiral Patrick one of the devs that got caught upvoting all the Zionist propoganda posts like a year and a half ago? I wished I saved that thread. None of the most egregious Zionists accounts are on the ban list even though they are very abrasive and political extremists. I wouldn’t be surprised if the rest was just a cover for that.
Using the word Zionist or the Epstein Class hides your comment :/ and I swear every account that’s critical of Israel is on that list.
Funny thing is, an awful lot of actually dangerous extremists won’t be on that list, because they don’t post the shit they’re doing on the Internet.
Love how people turned fact of being banned in an achievement. For some reason this doesn’t happen for communities.
I’m proudly banned from ml.
How does one go about checking that?
Love the username btw 🍌
Well, this is an exception, I guess.
Yes it does, unfortunately.
It’s a sign you don’t post enough. This includes myself.
I haven’t posted much, and yet…
Wish me luck.
