Firefox says it will keep supporting uBlock Origin even as Microsoft Edge and other Chromium browsers phase it out under Manifest V3.

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    I can’t imagine using the web without firefox and ublock. Even the cookie consent popups are awful.

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    If it goes… I don’t know what I’ll do.

    Go out and touch grass probably.

    Get a hobby.

    Perfect my molotov recipe.

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        Yes, and “ordnance”! “Ordinance” is like a municipal law, “ordnance” is explosives. Not trying to be pedantic, trying to inform. Slava Ukraini, by the way. <3

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      Come on, the meme format requires you to put another normal sentence at the end right after the provocative one lol.

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        I meant… Robot molotov. With AI. And cloud. And blockchain integration.

        I don’t know what I’m doing I hope that will suffice.

        Wait what meme format.

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          I’m just messing around. I was thinking of a 4-panel comic in which a person does chores, like vacuuming, handling laundry, and the 2nd-to-last panel is something like, “Dread one’s short existence,” before finishing with another humdrum task in the style of the other panels. I can’t find the comic despite trying, unfortunately!

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    Alternate headline: Firefox is now the only browser worth using.

    And in any case, lumping Firefox as one browser is disingenuous. There are numerous Firefox forks, just like every other major browser is in fact a Google Chromium fork.

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      it still boggles my mind that Microsoft developed Edge as a standalone browser as a replacement for IE then just said “nah, let’s just use Chromium.”

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        In the future it will probably come out there was a massive backroom deal. Neither this nor dropping Windows Phone have made any sense.

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    Future is dark:

    1. Android getting locked down

    2. They are asking your government ID to use OS, access internet etc.

    There must be real protest, revolution, something otherwise it will just get worst

    • pssst: it’s gonna get worse

      Download a shitload of epubs, roms, backup of wikipedia, and get ready for full-on, unmissable, 1984-style marketing and propaganda culture. You’ll see it, you’ll have to see it, and there will be no option B.

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        I am not sure what your comments mean. I am in tremendous back pain. And didn’t sleep For so long, and the fucking humidity.

        I want to add more. And vent.

        I am old enough and I saw similar actions, and the out come of it.

        Slwoly we are forced to use ESIMS, where I live, I have to pay every time I switch phones.

        And if I am outside of the country, I can’t even switch phones.

        I love the idea of esims, but not how it is implemented.

        Digiral data produced by me is so.expensive to keep.

        It is the digital age, but not a digital .storage age, it is cheaper to print shit.

        Optical storage can store terabytes of data, easy to maintain, you can design a device where the hdd store meta data and anyone from your family cam access the data stored on archival optical drives.

        It is not built because they want us to use the cloud. Maybe it is greed, control, surveillance.

        I just want a simple cartridge that can store my data for decads and technologically that is easily done. There are already archival optical storage sold to data centers, but why not to small businesses or consumers!?!?

        It is basically several bluray discs in a cartridge.

        The future is dark because of human nature.

        And we will do nothing about because look at state of printers. The ink cost more than gold per gram

        Look at air purifiers all proprietary filters that are over priced

        And yes I know about CR boxes but those furnace filters are only sold in USA.

        We are not good creatures

        Sorry, I am coherent enough to know I am not coherent, I needed to vent.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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      They “get the job done,” perhaps even provably, but:

      • It’s less flexible for fighting anti-adblocking.

      • Hence, it’s more work for Adblock devs/listmakers to maintain.

      You can see the UBO devs already complaining/stressing about it. Hence them recently dropping Facebook from their 1st-party lists because they’re tired of fighting paid devs, or increased reports of UBO Lite specific issues.

      I think that’s Google’s real intent.

      They aren’t trying to kill adblocking, just make it inconvenient enough so the vast majority don’t use it effectively. It’s a form of “soft” censorship, sort of.

  • RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world
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    Like a true google hate inspired hipster I have been using Firefox for at least the past 9 years. Don’t let one of the shittiest companies control even more of the world because you are too fucking lazy to switch to a different browser. If you have to deal with a few shitty websites made by morons that only work in chrome keep a secondary chromium install on standby when you have to hold your nose and use it.

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      Honestly I can only think of one. Weirdly a “developer platform”

      Well I guess a couple more because keyboard firmware sites do that usb browser thing that terrifies me is a thing and only chrome supports.

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        I have been a web dev for over 25… oh god… approaching 30 years, and most web dev teams with an ounce of self respect will spend the honestly trivial time to test against different browsers. I consider it a basic part of the god damn job. Even still banks and government sites seem to not give a fuck.

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      It’s been Chromium based for ages now. Meaning they’ll likely eventually stop supporting manifest V2 too, unless Google makes it easy for them to keep supporting it.

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        It’s a bad take, open source projects can be spun out to whatever branch you want and not needing a host support to keep it going…that’s why browser like brave can have its own hard coded adblock without relying on extensions like ublock and things like manifest V2 and V3 support, as it doesn’t need it as it has nothing to do with Google other than using their open source engine.

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          And yet many Chromium forks are following suit and disabling Manifest v2 support. The idea that these things “don’t need support” is silly when we’re talking about the Herculean effort of maintaining a browser. Yes, anyone can but when the vast majority of browsers are Chromium forks instead of individually created and maintained ones, how much effort do you think those organizations have?

          It’s good that browsers like Brave have an alternative means of ad blocking, and Firefox even has Brave’s exact same blocker built in now, but the idea that “you can just fork and block” is missing the point.

          Google has effectively won. They are the de facto controller of web standards now that the majority of browsers use Chromium. When they began dropping support for Manifest v2 in 2019 it was the same year they said ad blockers were a major threat to their revenue in their publicly filed shareholder statements. This isn’t some conspiracy theory either, you can literally go look that up. They dropped v2 because ad blocking was too powerful and gutted it in v3. They know that the ecosystem of browser forks they helped create depends on their dev effort and won’t keep v2.

          Even if v2 and ad blocking stay around, people still need to get the fuck off of Chromium. It’s ads today, but could be something else tomorrow. The problem is Google getting to easily control what like >80% of browsers see and do all because they control Chromium. Even if Google was suddenly like “you know what, we’re turning v2 back on,” I’d still be practically begging everyone to stay the fuck off of Chromium and get into something Firefox based. This is about so much more than just ads.