Get your shortnames while the getting’s good.
If nothing else we know this project will piss off Elon and that’s always a plus.
hahaha, this is the first thing I though after the idiot changed the iconic name to nothing, go twitter! (no, I’m not joining bluebird, but I like the trust threshold idea)
Ah yes, just what the world needs: another Twitter.
Twitter was awful before Musk bought it. Hard pass.
And I’m going to keep dead naming X as Twitter until Musk stops dead naming his daughter. I never used the site in the first place, but that’s besides the point.
ngl, who cares? I’ve never seen somebody going rabid over calling it Twitter.
And I’m going to keep dead naming X as Twitter until Musk stops dead naming his daughter.
I’ll dead name Twitter long after Musk stops dead naming his daughter, or he himself is dead. X is a stupid fucking name.
We both know Musk is never going to stop dead naming his daughter, so same difference.
I joined when it was the only way to win a pair of tickets to The Colbert show’s last taping. I didn’t win, I’ve never opened the site again. My username is like “adifficultpoo” lol
imo musk is a deadname now after he came out as a nazi. Now its just the nazi or space nazi if there are multiple nazi’s in the subject being discussed
“Early Access is open. $20 to join, $40+ to fight.” From twitter.now
xD. The original twitter was free!
Yeah. Not falling for that.
Yeah. “Lets try centralized algorithmic corporate social media again.”
Im sure this attempt will end up just as wholesome.
I’m not claiming Twitter is great.
But this is obviously going to fail, always was obviously going to fail. It’s a PR stunt, nothing more.
Twitter will sue them, they’ll settle for giving up the name and some token fine, and hopefully they’re on the map. Or, their hail mary long shot will pay off and they’ll get to call themselves twitter in which case holy shit they’re golden. That’s the strategy.
It’s stupid- they’ll lose in court and I doubt whatever they offer is more compelling than what’s already out there.
It’s stupid
Definitely.
they’ll lose in court
I’m not sure they will, genuinely. They intentionally abandoned the domain name for the website… and they’re no longer using the logo or name anywhere on their product, or corporate documentation.
The case that it’s up for grabs is actually decently strong.
Disney didn’t use Steamboat Willie for a while, they didn’t lose it…
Steamboat Willie is an example of Copyright. Twitter is an example of a Trademark. A Copyright is much much much easier to defend than a Trademark.
https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/trademark-patent-copyright
This is more akin to Disney saying, “We hate mice! Disney is now a chain of casinos and we’re rebranding to 🅱️!”
Could almost be similar to the situation that forced Musk to buy Twitter in the first place, because he of course tweeted that Twitter would never be Twitter again and they were ‘getting rid of the bird’”.
There are more details in the article and older articles linked as well.
Imo reviving Twitter as paid ai slop is just making a mockery of it.
Imo twitter was always a joke
FAQ was dead linking when I clicked on it earlier, too.
- Cash grab on an old name and hoping people pony up the $20 to join it.
- Not using ActivityPub or ATProto.
Yeah, it’s already DOA.
If anyone is serious about creating a new centralised social network these days, they have already lost.
and the sign up doesn’t even work, just 404s
Oh lol. It must have been because their firebase tokens were exposed and people were able to get around the waitlist/payment and sign up for an account.
Take a look: https://x.com/Patrosi73/status/2093079851393524087 (I would link to Xcancel/Nitter… but space karen decided to wig out)
Shame. A new Twitter that supports all the open protocols would have been cool. Fediverse with a name people recognise.
Isn’t that just Mastodon?
Mastodon is not called Twitter, and the vast majority of people have no idea what it is, unfortunately. A Mastodon instance called Twitter would be a great idea, although I think Mastodon doesn’t support all the protocols like Friendica does. But Friendica is too unlike Twitter.
I suppose that could potentially drag Mastodon’s developer into a legal fight (if X were to sue them), which would be costly and a distraction.
It may well be intended as a serious attempt but personally I’m just going to view it as trolling/a gimmick, in which case I don’t care how shit the actual platform is. Seems to be more about making a point against Musk than getting a serious userbase.
Somewhere in there is step 3: profit
I want to start a business that fleeces these rubes, how does an average man break into the bullshit game
Would be funny if Twitter/X Supports ATProto. Maybe also don’t give up the X Brand and you could interact with Bluesky users or twitter or X Handles and if you Bridge to the Fediverse yeah that works to. I could really delete my x/Twitter Profile and say. Hey My new Handle is my bridged Mastodon Account.
So, I’m just checking…
- It is not open source?
- It uses AI to “Fact-Check”?
- It costs 20$ to join, and possibly more later?
Well, they have chosen interesting path those people behind this thing.
This will never amount to more than a cash grab.
Sadly, true.
If only it was just a Mastodon instance (was thinking about creating “Twatter”, as a joke).
sounds like Shitler himself launched the “new site” for some extra money grabbing.
2022: Come on, it’s just 8$ it’s basically the price of a coffee.
2026: Come on, it’s just 20$ it’s basically the price of a coffee.
2030: Come on, it’s just 50 bottle caps, it’s basically the price of a coffee.
2050: What’s coffee?
Literally every year since the internet was created: the dollar sign goes before the number, my dude.
Didn’t know since we don’t follow this convention where I’m from.
Shrugs
Where are you from? In English it’s always the case that you put the dollar sign before the number.
Every one of these symbols goes before the number: $€£¥₹
Where are you from where it comes after? What currency do you use?
The only time this comes after the number, that I am aware of, is when you use abbreviations like USD or EUR instead of the symbol.
It’s language specific. In english it comes before the number. In many other languages it comes after.
Is it that relevant in this day and age? I was taught you put £ (or whatever currency you’re using) first when you’re writing so Johnny Fraudster can’t turn your 100£ into 1100£.
That all feels a bit immaterial on the web.
Hence the underline under the 00 cents/pence on a check/cheque.
Yes, it’s relevant in this day and age, because it’s still incorrect to do it the other way (at least in English and with $£¥ and a couple others, as another commenter pointed out).
When I read “20$” my first thought is that the person writing it didn’t pay attention in elementary school.
And being lenient about it on the web leads to the behavior leaking into the real world on things like shop signs.
Don’t even get me started on people who (mostly IRL) write things like “0.99¢” which makes me want to give them a cent and tell them to keep the change.
I don’t speak english natively. That’s why I didn’t know, yeah.
They’re probably trying to give Phoenix vibes with the new logo, but I’m not Pheelin’ it.
A Masto instance would have been cool. But that is just garbage.
mastodon (like lemmy) is the epitome of uncool
you know you’re not forced to be here, right? 🤫
As soon as a better reddit clone comes along I’m GONE
But I doubt it, even Mastodon which is German got overrun by Americans and American politics
Americans are EVERYWHERE
Is voat still around? You might fit in there.
let me guess, you’re one of the ones that got banned from reddit “for no reason”
I’m on reddit right now? Just having a quick read of this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oldreddit/comments/1vvylak/thoughts_on_lemmy/
🤣
Going on lemmy to brag that you still use reddit isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
im not bragging, im laughing at you guys
you’re the uncool losers of the internet which is how you like it until someone points it out
why do you think i care about random redditors on an obscure subreddit?
if you weren’t banned, you’d be upvoting those comments :D
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
what?
DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT!
There’s no door here, this is a website
You know that Fediverse is decentralized, right? Lots of instance barely have anything American, especially Asian instance.
You know that Fediverse is decentralized, right?
OH REALLY? NO WAY
I HAD NO IDEA
I’ll be honest Americentrism annoys me too, but we can hardly complain when we’re on lemmy.world of all places.
America is the largest Anglophone country so you can’t really complain about them being numerous on an international English-speaking audience, not exactly their fault they did a lot of baby booming in the late '40s.
And the boomers had a bunch of kids that are all tech savvy and in their 30s-40s, so you know, the primary userbase for Reddit/Twitter/Lemmy/Mastodon etc.
oh look, an AfD member!
What 3 braincells rubbed together to make this comment
Touch grass
It’s running through servers, they objectively must stay cool.
I assume those servers are poor people servers and run at 100% cpu and 90 degrees
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Lol. It’d be hilarious if this succeeded. It was so dumb of Musk to change the name.
Most of what musk does is dumb.
Most of what musk does is dumb.
People are dumber than him though, for example there are plenty of idiots here who share content from his platforms
He didn’t get rich from being smart.
I assume he got rich how most people get rich, luck and being a sociopath.
also having a lot of money to start out with helps
aka luck
And an apartheid era emerald mine
And also by being a vaporware scam artist. Thunderf00t on YouTube has a whole collection of videos showcasing Musk’s whole repertoire of bullshit.
yea… that’s pretty much all Thunderfoot posts about nowadays… he hella fell off, for multiple reasons. But like, a decade ago he used to talk about scam kickstarters, atheism, interesting science topics, etc. And then in those debunking science videos he would bring the math and receipts that made it fun to watch… But then in the past 5 years it’s just been Elon… nearly every video is about Elon. It’s obsessive.
And tbf, that’s not the only ick around Thunderfoot. I mean, he did kinda get his start during the Anti-SJW culture war shit doing anti-femisist ragebait videos. Basically occupied the same spaces as Sargon, Bearing and GradeAunderA… and he’s never really “grown” out of that, or addressed it, let alone apologized for it. He harps on Elon, and sometimes Trump/AlexJones/StevenCrowder but he’s never really talked about how he and his ilk helped bring them about.
His latest video was exploring ‘anti-baking soda’ as a potential novel way to do CO2 capture at scale.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fvxNmStSC3M
He also ‘got his start’ before Anti-SJW youtube was a thing. His first series that popped off, back in the day, the day being 2008ish, was "Why do People Laugh at Creationists?'.
I don’t know that he ever … explicitly collabed with Sargon or any of those guys, but yeah he did exist in roughly the same genre-space, around the GamerGate era of i dunno, 2013 to 2015, ish?
While he has covered Elon a lot, thats because he started calling bullshit on Elon’s nonsense since way, way before that was common… he’s been tooting his own horn a bit, following around 10 years of Elon’s trolls telling him he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and well, it turned out he did.
He literally has a personal grudge against Elon Musk.
For all his faults, he is one of the oldest, OG youtubers, since damn near day 1, who is also still around, and hasn’t imploded.
His first vid is 19+ years old, so, 2007ish, and its calling out GWB as a war mongering liar.
All that being said, if you want a more recent youtube channel thats basically just mostly been tearing Musk to shreds, with science: Common Sense Skeptic.
By ‘more recent’ I mean they’ve only been around for 5 or 6 years, I think.
Not to mention that he milks this content to extreme, he can say things which would take 1 minute in 10
Was unaware of much of that; how disappointing. That being said, what I’ve watched about Musk was informative.
Mostly inherited wealth, but also those things.
A surprising number of people do not understand how getting rich works. Literally anyone can do it. You simply need to do whatever everyone else refuses to do.
You take on the risks. You debase yourself you compromise any and all ethics. You whore out for shareholders who will give you endless money to shield them from consequences they directly funded.
It’s profitable because there is always demand for a new villain and damn near nobody wants to do it. For a good fucking reason.
You seem to be mistakenly conflating getting rich with increasing wealth. Just about nobody gets rich. Many people leverage their existing wealth to gain more. Frequently, that exchange is the start of what is now defined as enshitification.
Everyone cannot do it. Fundamentally its easy: Have money and pick something to middleman. Waste capital until you ‘disrupt’ that flow. ???. Maybe profit. Who the fuck cares? You got yours. Repeat.
Simple: have wealth. Easy.
Step one is have money to make money. Aside from being the result of two wealthy people fucking… care to detail how so many people are checking that box?
Certainly - there ARE paths to wealth… but they are rare, risk heavy, and frequently are destined to be prey to a resource rich competitor.
You take on the risks.
It’s easier to take on the risks when you’re already rich from inherited wealth.
Are you rich? Where’s your Bugatti?
It’s in the shop. In Canada. But totally real. You just can’t see it right now because it’s in the shop. In Canada.
A lot of it has to do with over-promising and under-delivering. The rest is marketing.
I’m hearing ‘once you have money do…’
Care to tell me where that gullible userbase is coming from? Pray, tell - what do they come for?
Before that is even a factor you must either be first - with research and development … and manufacturing… and distribution… or better. Or cheaper! Or able to undercut the competition.
Of the things mentioned… I seem to be struggling to find the element lacking a substantial financial investment.
Care to tell me where that gullible userbase is coming from?
They’re not all gullible. A lot of VC types are obsessive gamblers, they’ll throw money at anything that sounds like it might have a high return.
Pray, tell - what do they come for?
That’s where the marketing comes in. Elon is pretty good at selling these big ideas, making them sound futuristic and world-changing. He not only sells those ideas to VCs, but also to the government. A lot of his businesses have pulled in substantial government contract money. The public rarely gets any return from those tax dollars.
VC won’t give you the time of day if you lack a product or platform. This isnt go-fund-me or r/wsb. VC appear to bet big but are frequently pretty well informed and diversified. Their big bets aren’t much from their prospective… and frequently will be the first to squeeze “their due” from a failing venture.
I dont see how Elon makes a good example for this. If anything it supports what I said:
Elon is wealthy. He has a platform. He has shit he’s bought and is reselling snake oil from those things. He’s not poofing something from nothing.
I used to be surprised at how stupid billionaires can be. But, then I remembered they don’t actually do anything where they work, and the real employees run behind them and clean up their messes. When they stick their fingers in the works, they fuck it up, Cybertruck being one example.
Third generation curse.
I personally believe the cybertruck was a designer who was making fun of musk. He submitted a pinewood derby car he made when he was 7.
Its the literal emperors new clothes.
Most? Can anyone name anything smart he’s done in years?
Finally deleted she who shall not be named from my address book.
Do I win?
