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    So I get it, half of us suck ass. I wish people would stop saying " Americans" as if all of us want this shit stain to have any form of power. He shouldn’t even have power over his own television, that’s how useless he is. Call them Trump supporters, not Americans. They go against everything the rest of value dearly. Calling them Magats is also acceptable.

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      And the other half isn’t doing shit about it.

      They go against everything the rest of value dearly

      Nah, he’s just too stupid to lie about it well. But violating international law and the like is normal American behavior.

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        “And the other half isn’t doing shit about it.” That’s some opinion for someone with no experience of talking to actual Americans. Your level of confidence in your ignorance is the exact problem with the half of my country I’m on the verge of a Civil War with.

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          That’s some opinion for someone with no experience of talking to actual Americans

          Uh no - I’m an American who emigrated in 2022. Prior to that, I had spent much of my time in political activism - among them organizing protests against the Iraq War, electoral work for the Democrats, multiple DSA chapters (and associated electoral work), and SRA and other left-wing groups.

          I am VERY well aware of not only Americans, but also the standard belief that international law can be routinely ignored, and there’s no individual civic responsibility other than hectoring others to Vote Blue No Matter Who and watch late night talk shows to be told you’re smarter than the other side.

          I’m on the verge of a Civil War with

          Oh, are you armed? Prepared? Have you organized with others so you’re ready to fight?

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        Yeah I don’t know what you get away with in your country. Maybe you are allowed to have asshole points of view because people aren’t used to spotting the red flags yet. When the rest of you all who are condemning ALL Americans as if we are all the same start spouting off your bullshit you just sound like a red hat wearing piece of sub human garbage like all the rest of the biggots.

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          See above - I am a former American. Partially because of actually taking action is why I don’t live there anymore.

          Aside from a VERY small minority, you are all the same when it comes to actual action or taking responsbility for your murderous government. And you people that want to whine “not ALL of us” are not those exceptions, in my experience.

          Perhaps I’m wrong - want to explain to me exactly how you’re opposing this government that is murdering children?

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            And what exactly the fuck are you doing? And what exactly the fuck would you have me do? I don’t have a god damn army at my disposal or I would do a reverse January 6th on his ass. If they ever drafted me, I would explain very clearly that if they put a gun in my hand I would use it to immediately kill myself with it. I joined my city’s division of a group called "Indivisble ". It’s an anti fascism organization that had groups in every major city, even the smaller ones like mine. I live in a red state where I’m mostly surrounded by Trump signs in people’s yards yet the only Trump supporters in my life are family members who I cut off for that very reason. I don’t have to deal with any others unless I’m in public. The reason for this is because, guess what?..There aren’t so many fucking insane Trump supporters, even in a red state, that i cannot successfully avoid them in my day to day. Unless im at work, I dont see them or hear their bull shit (their bullshit that sounds just like yours but using different labels, Americans instead of immigrants or blacks or gays, it doesn’t matter bigotry is all the same) because unlike your twisted media influenced pov of America, we are not 99% Trump supporters. Idk the real percentage, it’s most likely closer to 50%. If I were to do a survey of everyone in whatever place you live, I guarantee about 50% of them would be walking trash and I would include you with them.

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      Considering the fact that the Americans who don’t worship Trump seem to spend most of their time clutching their pearls about how some people don’t like the latest Disney movie and constantly insist that holding a weekend sign-waving parade a couple of times per year is all they should be reasonably expected to do to fight a fascist regime that’s killing people by the thousands and creating chaos all around the world, I think condemning the country as a whole is appropriate.

      But hey, maybe a few more Luigi memes will make Trump go away.

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        Or maybe judging every person in a country because of the actions of one man and his followers is a very Trump supporter thing to do. Just to make sure you understand, if you with your mindset and way of thinking were born here, you would probably be a red hat wearing piece of garbage just like them.

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          If I was born in the United States, and my country’s democratically-elected government was threatening to annex its neighbours, bombing countries unprovoked, allowing hundreds of thousands of people to die due to suddenly reneging on expected aid and generally doing everything in its power to destroy the concept of democracy around the world I’d like to think my biggest concern wouldn’t be that some of the people in the countries being attacked aren’t going out of their way to fluff my ego. The fact that that does seem to be the biggest concern of so many Americans says a lot.

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            Yeah because you are the only one being hurt by this man huh? You, who don’t even live here, being affected the most by his bull shit. No, your biggest concern is attacking the people who are also hurting just like you. Go f yourself

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            23 hours ago

            Genius fucking mentality btw. I hate some Americans so I’m gonna say shit that makes me an enemy to ALL Americans.

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              When US tanks roll into my country, I am not going to give two shits about who the tank driver voted for.

              Your fascism is destabilizing the world, and the rest of us are tired of the excuses like “I didn’t vote for it”. Fucking great for you. Guess what, the billions of other people on the planet didn’t either and we’re the ones suffering the consequences. People in other countries have died directly because of the actions of YOUR country. Some by bombs, some by yanking support, and some by just plain old apathy.

              “Don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for him” is god-damned fucking tone deaf. “My conscience is clean, so you cannot hold me accountable.” Abdication of responsibility for the actions of YOU government. If you do nothing for real to stop it, then you are complicit.

              Half of the people who voted, voted for this, and a full third of people didn’t vote at all. That means that two out of 3 Americans let this happen.

              “My conscience is clean, so you cannot hold me accountable.” All Americans, even the ones who didn’t vote for him benefit from the economic imperialism the US has been enforcing upon the world. The average American is 84 times richer than the average African. Even if you are dirt poor, your quality of life far exceeds the vast majority of the world.

              So I’ll kick it back to you, “genius fucking mentality you have” that you think anyone in any other country will have any bit of sympathy for the average American, since it’s your country that you have benefited from the wealth and opulence of that is causing nearly every fucking problem the world is experiencing right now.

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                “Your fascism” riiight MY fascism. Let me just look up the worst leader of whatever country you are from and I’ll assume you are just like them. No matter who you support or who YOU are as a person. I’m going to pick the worst person I can find and tell everyone that you are the same.

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                  Whataboutism, the classic argument of someone with no point.

                  I’ll save you the history research. We had some really shitty people, and when we found out they were shitty, we got rid of them, or if they were already gone, we taught in school why they were shitty and told kids to not do shitty things to other people. And we don’t make it illegal to teach our kids that we had shitty people in our past.

                  As opposed to a country that re-elected a convicted criminal, rapist and most likely pedophile and seems more concerned with checking the inside of a child’s underwear than the fascists running the country.

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                    See there you go again. People like you consistently miss the point on purpose. Talking to you is just like talking to one of them. You are so smug because you don’t happen to live in the states right now. I’m sure your country is next to have problems like every country inevitably will until we do away with borders entirely. When that day comes in the future and you have shit to deal with, I hope the rest of the world abandons you too. M.fer

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                    The point about American tanks in your country isn’t really relevant since nether of us have control over that situation, do we? Maybe spend your energy worrying about the stuff you can control instead of spreading more ignorance and misinformation…thinking you are different than the people you bitch about because of where you live.

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                Do you think any Americans give a shit about your horrible opinion? We have just as many problems as the rest of the world. You don’t live here, you dont know the actual people. You are making judgements of an entire country of people because of the actions of the few. I dont care how many bad things you bring up that America has done, I can research some fucked up shit that your country did too because guess what? Every country has fucking problems. Thinking you are somehow better than me because you don’t happen to live in my geography is literally Maga mentality. Might as well be Nazi mentality. You think im somehow more responsible for this shit than you because of where I was born? You’re cooked in the head man. You’re cooked.

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                  I spent 6 long years working in the united states, and still have many friends there, and most of my life lived on the border and spent a lot of time there. When I served in the military, I worked with a lot of US service members. And I’m educated and probably know more about your country than you do.

                  And I responded to your other unhinged message, but forgot to add this.

                  My country learns from our mistakes, we don’t re-elect them.

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                    I was a professional ballet dancer and I worked with other dancers from many many different countries. What I learned is that there are pieces of shit from every country. Maybe American has more but who really knows. All we know is what the tv tells us right? Im sure thats your mindset. You seem like you are one of those pieces of shit that I just mentioned. Whatever country you live in, you should know that you as an individual are part of the problem. The greater problems that the entire human race faces. Judging groups of people for the actions of the few is mob mentality bull shit fascist thinking that got everyone in this mess to begin with. Wake the fuck up.