• frostypanda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    2026 is so depressing, lol. I’ve noticed this with some (non-gaming) Korean media, where the writing feels very AI (and I’m kind of suspecting a lot of it is considering East Asia’s quick embrasure of it).

    All of this is easy to legislate (not necessarily fix because people will just lie and face no consequence if they’re rich). Ban generative AI for commercial purposes.

    Anything with art, being that games, illustration, even writing feels tainted these days. Those of us who don’t want gen AI are going to have to find ways to form our own communities (and hope we can trust the majority of people in them).

    On the bright side, I’m suddenly feeling okay with not getting to play a lot of the Switch 2 games.

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      Where Winds Meet is a Chinese free-to-play RPG that was briefly popular earlier this year. The devs actually considered it a selling point that NPCs and sidequests were entirely LLM-driven. Look up a video if you want to see some of the most awkward and cringe-inducing dialog this side of Soulstorm.

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      i can barely find a gaming blog these days that aren’t: written by AI, clickbait, or videos (also AI)

      journalism is a lost art

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        Because generative AI has been built off the backs of everyone, whether they consented or not. Because AI companies (Nvidia, Facebook, pick a company) have pirated enough material to keep any individual in jail for life, and yet they have no consequences and can profit off everything.

        If generative AI can not be used for commercial purposes, it also cripples the ability to replace artists, writers, etc., with an AI that stole all their work in the first place and is regurgitating it. Generative AI isn’t the issue, and it won’t go away (I wish it would, but the world doesn’t work that way). It’s the way it’s being used. Take the profit out of it, and we can all (to some degree) benefit from it. Take the profit out of it, and stop them from hoarding and destroying books/knowledge, destroying the environment, destroying your economy.

        I’m sure people more well-read into generative AI can give a better example than a layman who is tired of billionaires and trillionaires doing whatever they like with no consequence, destroying our environment, our jobs, our economy, and now our souls along the way.

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          Because generative AI has been built off the backs of everyone, whether they consented or not.

          This is covered by fair use, and in any case intellectual property is bullshit.

          Because AI companies (Nvidia, Facebook, pick a company) have pirated enough material to keep any individual in jail for life, and yet they have no consequences and can profit off everything.

          Legally, downloading stuff illegally is a civil content, so you can’t in fact go to jail for it, only pay fines. Morally, the whole concept of piracy evolved out of government-granted monopolies and was pushed by rich pricks as a way to get richer at the expense of everyone else, so there’s no reason to give it any moral weight.

          If generative AI can not be used for commercial purposes, it also cripples the ability to replace artists, writers, etc., with an AI that stole all their work in the first place and is regurgitating it.

          “Protecting jobs from competition” is very low on my list of things I want enforced via state violence. Maybe it’s high on yours, but I’d like not to get state violence’d to satisfy your sensibilities thank you very much. Otherwise you can’t complain when, say, conservatives use state violence so enforce their sensibilities on you.

          Take the profit out of it, and we can all (to some degree) benefit from it. Take the profit out of it, and stop them from hoarding and destroying books/knowledge, destroying the environment, destroying your economy.

          Uh… what? What’s your reasoning there?

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            No matter how much pirates try to push the point by repeating it, I have never agreed with the sentiment that intellectual property is bullshit. Has it been co-opted by large businesses to stifle forward movement? Yes. Does it still have a place that can protect genuine creators? Also yes.

            But it’s very hard to convince people of this position if they’ve never had the experience of investing (equivalent of) thousands of personal dollars or man-hours into a work where they had some investment, monetary or emotional, in its success.

            The universal anti-state-violence argument is also so circular. Do we believe state cops should murder black people? Obviously not. Who do we think should stop them? How about internal affairs peacekeepers and court-owned marshalls. Oh, so now we’re back to promoting state sponsored violence against preferred targets?

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    16 days ago

    I can’t prove it, but I’ve felt like a lot of the girls from gacha games have been generated for a while now.

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    This seems weird to me. Isn’t Japanese culture obsessed with aesthetics? Like when you buy fast food there it actually looks neat and clean like in advertisements, and you might spend a small fortune on a couple of strawberries but they’ll be the brightest, most flawless specimens you’ll see in your lifetime. Even cheap throwaway meals are packaged like a professional food stylist went over them.

    That focus on perfection seems incongruent with the slop machine that churns out soulless, derivative, and often obviously flawed ‘art’.

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      There’s a big difference between what’s happening in the commercial world and art circles. I can’t speak for food but with regards to the topic here, Japan has a huge creator market and that market responds very differently. A year back, their biggest creator fair had a few “artists” selling AI “art” but essentially no one was interested and they hardly sold anything while others had sprawling queues. This year there was pretty much 0 as a result.

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      Maybe they have high standards for what they generate, use the models as “fillers” or “finishers” (broadly adding details or patterns to a base sketch, then touching up on any errors or ungeneratable details), or rely on models they’ve vetted for consistent quality? I doubt they’re all using a piss filter chatgpt text to image gen.

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      Yeah, it does seem inconsistent with the view that anything AI touches must obviously look awful.

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        Self selecting bias. If all AI is bad, then if it’s good it’s not ai by definition.

        My point is, probably a lot more content is ai than people think, but they don’t notice.

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          Yeah, if the AI gets curated, it is almost impossible to notice.

          And all AI should be curated. A human has to check everything for halucinations.

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      Have you considered that wherever you’re from is the weird place? They are much more optimistic about AI in Asia.

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    Yes, this tracks. My wife’s at a company that has both JP and US branches and the JP side seems a lot more chill with generative AI (although they learned already not to use it in production, only internal visuals and planning). It’s rather unfortunate, although hard to say if they would have hired an illustrator or just gone without visuals.

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    Well, damn. I guess I’m gonna have to be way more critical of which Japanese developers I support. Or stop buying Japanese games altogether.

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    My impression is that AI stigma generally isn’t mainstream in Japan, so that makes sense. Also wow, y’all are salty.

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    O no! Looks like most of Lemmy is going to stand on their laurels and not play a single Nintendo game ever again! Right?

    Because y’all hate AI so much.

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      I already don’t play them cause they are the same shit copy pasted like EA sports. Also Nintendo sucked way before AI

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        Seems like you haven’t played a Nintendo game in a while.

        Even their Mario Kart series add new stuff in every edition. Which is just a racing game and how much can you improve on that? Well Nintendo found a way every time.

        Nintendo is an awful company with lawyers that sue anything that isn’t nailed down. But there is a reason why their consoles sell so well.

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        Preach brother.

        They make the same old tired games over and over again and people go crazy for them.

        “OMG this new Mario game is revolutionary they really improve the jump mechanic!”

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          You can say whatever you want about their (very shitty) business practices but saying that all their games are copy pasted is just flat out wrong. They make some of the best, most fun, and most innovative games out there.

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            Nintendo Games Released in the Last 3 Years

            2023

            • Super Mario Bros. Wonder
            • Detective Pikachu Returns
            • WarioWare: Move It!
            • Super Mario RPG

            2024

            • Another Code: Recollection
            • Mario vs. Donkey Kong
            • Princess Peach: Showtime!
            • Endless Ocean Luminous
            • Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
            • Luigi’s Mansion 2 HD
            • Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition
            • Emio – The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club
            • The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom
            • Mario & Luigi: Brothership

            2025

            • Donkey Kong Country Returns HD
            • Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition
            • Mario Kart World
            • Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour
            • Donkey Kong Bananza
            • Pokémon Legends: Z-A
            • Kirby Air Riders
            • Metroid Prime 4: Beyond

            2026

            • Mario Tennis Fever
            • Star Fox
            • Splatoon Raiders
            • Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition – Switch 2 Edition
            • Fire Emblem: Fortune’s Weave

            Ya. Super innovative.