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      cuck

      Meaning, they code anything they want while you can’t and just stand aside and look?

      EDIT: Perfect

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        And thats why you either do a vibecoded project or you do a regular project. You will not feel any loss if the vibecode gets ripped off. So don’t mix the two.

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          Good meme, just doesn’t fit this specific scenario perfectly.

          But that’s kind of the point, isn’t it? The code cuck forfeits authorship.

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            They did nothing aside from the instructions. So their project is setting the agent, not the result of the agent.

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              So when I use Photoshop that’s filled with AI tools or After Effects with AI 3D tracking to accelerate my project, it’s not my project because the work was made easier because of modern tools?

              It’s a yes or no question.

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                Prompting an AI agent is not the same as using photoshop. It is more comparable to commissioning something (art, code, writing, etc). You don’t have authorship, the LLM does in this case. That doesn’t mean you can’t own the piece that gets created, that’s what commissioning is, you just can’t claim you authored it. Though whether you or the company that runs the model owns the output is still not a settled question legally speaking.

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                  Last I checked, AI creations cannot be copyrighted if human work was not involved (no human - no copyrights). This means that if you had to do something by yourself, even compiling, then there was human. While for AI generated images it’s quite clear you will not own it, but software tends to be more advanced, ChatGPT doesn’t just send you an exe file, you have to put it together by yourself.

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                    Again this is the difference between authorship and ownership. While I’m no lawyer, to my understanding you must demonstrate that what you did was genuinely transformative to claim authorship.

                    You use compiling the code an LLM gives you as an example of this. Does a person running gentoo have the ability to claim authorship of all the software on their machine because they compiled it?

                    I think the only thing you can certainly claim authorship over is the prompt(s) that were used to generate the output.

                    Another good example of this is compilers. How often do you see people claim authorship of the assembly generated as an intermediary step of the gcc?

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      I feel like there are two things

      1. People with limited knowledge using AI to achieve things that they personally aren’t able to do
      2. People with knowledge using AI to achieve things human brains can’t do

      I’m not smart enough to know which one of these actually applies in this situation, but I feel that they are distinctly different and justify a use case. My layman understanding is reverse engineering software like this is completely not feasible with just sheer human willpower

      If you are informed on this subject please enlighten me which of these apply if any

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        This would likely have been a multi-year effort if done manually by experts on hobby time, and impossible if the person using AI didn’t know what they were doing.

        The LLM would have gotten stuck for sure without proper guidance.

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        Literally all the modern recompilations are AI-driven.

        There are various levels of involvement of human actors in the loop, but if you don’t want to use any AI project, just ignore them all.

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          My largest gripe is they all feel like they’re just tossed out there en mass like a speedrun and lord only knows if they’d have any post support.

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      I’m sorry but this increasingly an “old man yells at cloud” take. This is not going away, and will just get more common.

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        It’s not an “old man yells at cloud” take at all, sweetie. It’s just the truth. Your overgrown autocomplete isn’t a substitute for actual knowledge and skill.