• GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world
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        Not the police, as it is one the most unionized group of public servant workers in France, the biggest police union is called alliance, which is considered to be affiliated with the far right, and their spokespersons go bitching on tv like little crybabies every chance they get. The only group not allowed to unionized in France is historically military personnel, so maybe you’re thinking of the gendarmerie who are military and not cops even if most of what they do is cop things.

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        Here in Bordeaux they just started gassing the legal movement super heavily, it was 100% peaceful (no shooting stuff or burning or even firecrackers) was moving for only 5 minutes (this is regular stuff, happens often). Old people, handicapped people, parents with strollers. My friend went to them (the riot police) and asked why they started to gas everyone and could they please let them (him) help people out (you get respiratory problems when you’re gassed, and people get disoriented, scared etc, people was on the floor, panicked), he got gassed.

        So this seems to be a biig “blunder”, I mean if they don’t just not give a fuck, which they don’t. They don’t listen? Well then it’s french riot time I guess.

        ✊🏼

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          China isn’t listed, but we couldn’t get reliable numbers from them anyway. China counts as a “wealthy” nation, no doubt. Also, France isn’t listed.

          I suspect the U.S. number is too low, as well. We all know our cops cover for each other and lie constantly.

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          Before clicking on that link, guess how many people in the US are killed by police each year. Remember, this includes justified/self-defense kills, not just bad shootings. In a large country with an armed populous.

          How does the actual number compare to your guess?

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        The student picked up a stun grenade that had been thrown and it exploded in their hand.

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          He was 15.

          However, regional newspaper La Voix Du Nord quoted a girl, who was reportedly standing near the teenager, as saying he did not pick up the grenade.

          “He didn’t pick it up. I was there, I saw it. He didn’t pick it up, he didn’t catch it,” she was quoted as saying.

          And

          Last week, Eden, 14, was badly hurt in Saint-Ouen-l’Aumône after reportedly being struck in the head by a tear gas grenade.

          The student suffered “a double jaw fracture” and had to undergo “extremely major surgery”, according to his lawyer. Interior Minister Laurent Nuñez has announced an investigation.

          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9zrdmxp4vy6o

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          Yeah that’s the cops’ version. The students around said that they didn’t pick it up.

          Also, even if they did… Are you saying that a kid was at fault for picking up explosives thrown at them? That the only problem in the story, is that he grabbed it, otherwise everything else was fine?

          What the fuck.

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            I completely agree that explosives should not be used against protestors.

            Still, I fail to see how a stun grenade can blow your hand off if it’s not in your hand.

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              That’s because you think a stun grenade’s only job is that it stuns, just like that.

              It’s a grenade. It explodes. That’s how it can blow off a hand if it hits one.

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      it’s cool they’re destroying stuff to get educated better

      i wonder if these guys will pass those courses they so desperately want

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        It’s not the demonstrators, it’s the usual bunch of idiots that use that excuse to break stuff and pillage shops. It’s become pretty much systematic.

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      Our police have low end military equipment, that’s about it. Being militarized means not having fat lazy 40-60 year olds on the force, and America sure as shit ain’t there yet.

      Our police love the optics of having military gear, but quite frankly they aren’t trained and versed on military tactics, discipline, or a number of other things that would make them effective. That’s why when there’s a real problem like a school shooting or hostage situation they just stand around sucking each other off while wearing body army and holding $1500 AR’s. They’re just security theater. They care about getting easy overtime. They want to go home at the end of the day. They don’t want to die violently. They are paper tigers.

      The best part is that when one dies or quits, they have to hire a replacement. It would be fairly easy to create a scenario where a PD NEEDS to hire new officers ASAP, then you flood then with Manchurian applicants. Get your man inside, then you’re golden.

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        Our police love the optics of having military gear, but quite frankly they aren’t trained and versed on military tactics, discipline, or a number of other things that would make them effective. That’s why when there’s a real problem like a school shooting or hostage situation they just stand around sucking each other off while wearing body army and holding $1500 AR’s. They’re just security theater. They care about getting easy overtime. They want to go home at the end of the day. They don’t want to die violently. They are paper tigers.

        Weird, that perfectly describes the cops in the US.

        Oh and militarized just means giving the cops military equipment, mostly armored vehicles and projectile launchers that wouldn’t normally be used in civilian work. Police are civilians, and I think they understand that in France better than anywhere, because you don’t allow them military vehicles and gear to fight the populace. Unfortunately, no other country got the message. We give MRAPS to our thugs with badges. It’s hard to fight back, even when you have pistols, shotguns, and rifles, when the thugs with badges have crowd control weapons. Sonic inhibitors, UV dispersal units, and lethal options like their standard issue AR-15.

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        I dunno where the fuck you’re from but American cops definitely aren’t fat 40-60 year old slobs. That’s one of the things that is so dangerous about them, they’re young dudes with a chip on their shoulder and shit to prove (and now let just ICE, they’re the bottom of the barrel but they’re hadly an exception)

        Now if you’re from a rich community where everyone has gates and private patrols then yeah maybe it’s all fat old cops collecting a check where nothing happens because they roll out the SWAT team when people from “those other neighborhoods” get near, yeah maybe I see where the idea comes from

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          You can’t speak for the entire US dude. The cops in rural areas definitely are fat 40-60 year old guys. Still got an AR in the trunk tho.