• themoken@startrek.website
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    Where I vote the paper ballot doesn’t have identifying info and is in your hand for like 10 seconds between the voting machine and the ballot box. Someone would have to be in the polling place accosting me to check how I voted, which would be an issue no matter how the ballot got generated.

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      8 hours ago

      Ok, so the point of the machine is to generate a ballot?

      Seems like it would be easier to just skip the machine…

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        4 hours ago

        Nah, you do both. A fast electronic count then a slow paper count. That way you get the advantages of both systems.

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        The machine allows a digital recording that can be tabulated faster than physically counting the paper ballots.

        The paper ballots should still be the official votes and counts, but the machine means faster preliminary results.

        Digital-only voting is an issue because there is no backup paper trail, and could easily be compromised without any visible indication.

        There is no reason for the voting machine to know a name or display anything identifying. You should be verified separately before getting close to a machine to vote. It should be as dumb as possible. Only tabulating your selections and printing the result for you to verify then drop into the official box.

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        8 hours ago

        Then you get back to the old way of punching holes in a paper ballot and well… Have you ever heard of a “hanging chad”? That shit has issues too.

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          7 hours ago

          I’m amazed at the American obsession with voting machines. A properly organised hand count has an amazingly low error rate. I distinctly remember an article about 20 years ago stating, that even the then newest scanning vote counting machines had an error rate higher than hand counting.

          Yes “a human” makes mistakes. But multiple humans paying attention at the same time and also keeping each other honest do a tremendously good job.

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            5 hours ago

            that is why conservative depend on the mahcines, they are known to have an error rate that somehow only benefits republicans.

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          7 hours ago

          There are other types of paper ballots.

          Here in Sweden you take a ballot from the party you want to vote for, you mark any specific representative if you want, you put the ballot in an envelope, seal it, walk to the election official desk and cast your vote: