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      If you’re from Israel and you support what your country is doing in Gaza, oh yea, you’re 100% the bad guy.

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    Serious question: what does Israel have against Ireland? Here they’re saying that Hamas should go there, and earlier today there was a different article saying that Israel wasn’t letting Irish nationals evacuate Gaza right now.

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    He says the northern Strip has no right to exist, adding that anyone waving a Palestinian or Hamas flag “shouldn’t continue living on the face of the earth.”

    🇵🇸

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    Okay two things. First, clearly this drooling idiot has never heard of “radioactive fallout.”

    Second, why Ireland of all places? And why Ireland or deserts? Ireland isn’t an inhospitable wasteland. They have water and grass and electricity. Soccer too, sure, but nowhere’s perfect.

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    I absolutely loathe Otzma Yehudit. They are like MAGA, Vox, National Rally, and the rest of the far right religious assholes. While I understand why Israel separated religious courts and authority from the government (don’t like how they did it though), they should have, at the very least, tied voting and government eligibility to national service. So much of the ultra orthodox functions like the extremist Mormon FLDS does in the US. A fucking stain on my people.

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      By and large Otzma Yehudit voters do serve in the army. You are confusing Religious Zionists (who do serve, and make up the bulk of the far-right and settlers in Israel) with the Ultra-Orthodox (who do not serve, and largely don’t have views about the conflict and are more worried about social programs for their community who are by and large poor).

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        This minister in particular didn’t serve because he was considered a suspected terrorist. Too far right for the IDF - almost impressive.

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        Oh damn. You’re right. I’m a little more familiar with ben Gvir’s history than the whole movement and conflated them. Looking into it, I have changed my stance. The military needs better separation of Torah and State. Also, ben Gvir and Otzma Yehudit are still just giant piles of shit.

        I still have issues with much of the Haredi. Things like their iron grip on religious control in Israel, domestic abuse issues, cult like behavior, demanding special treatment, and feeding off of others to survive.

        But yeah that isn’t Otzma Yehudit. They’re more of religious militants it seems. Certainly not helping the state of things. Doesn’t help that the haredi groups and religious zionists easily form coalitions.

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      I’m of two minds about national service. On one hand, it seems like a powerful tool to build national unity. On the other hand, I see a lot of risk that people will be forced to serve in ways that offend their conscience.

      My main reference point is the US during the Vietnam War. Lots of people were conscripted and sent to fight in a war they didn’t believe in. Being a conscientious objector was a thing, but the criteria were very narrow, such that (for example) I would not have qualified even though I consider it an immoral war. The main way people got out of serving was though the exemption for people getting university degrees, but that of course is a very unfair system that only benefits people who are privileged enough to attend a university.

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      Even in your neighborhood. Where there are potentially voyeurs about…
      Which is a concern.

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      They’re, historically, Modern Palestine’s closest Western ally, basically the only one in Gaza after the 2007 elections and subsequent violent purge of the PA from the region and destruction of Fatah during the brief conflict that followed.

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    The United States has a base near Gaza, this would be the dumbest thing ever if it occurred. Israel would have the entire planet turn on it and this would lose all rights to a nation forever.

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      You know what is also right near Gaza? Israel. You know what doesn’t care about borders? Radiation.

      This guy is a fucking moron even disregarding the genocidal nature of the comment.

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    Nuking Gaza will also do damage to Israel proper whether they like it or not. The range of nuclear bombs is a lot bigger than you think.

    Congratulations, Israel. You played yourself.